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  • Ukrainian forces took out more than 100 Russian soldiers with an ATACMS missile, per OSINT analysts.
  • Four ATACMS were used to target the group, one analyst said.
  • The soldiers would have been out of reach of Ukraine's shorter-range ATACMS missiles.

A Ukrainian ATACMS long-range missile strike killed more than 100 Russian soldiers in an occupied region 50 miles from the front line, according to OSINT and military analysts.

Ukrainian forces targeted a Russian military training area some 50 miles behind the front line in the occupied Luhansk Oblast in eastern Ukraine, per an assessment by The Institute for the Study of War.

According to two aerial geolocated videos posted on Wednesday by X user Osinttechnical, an account affiliated with the Centre for Naval Analyses, Ukraine appeared to strike the training area with three US-supplied M39 ATACMS tactical ballistic missiles.

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[-] Spaghetti_Hitchens@kbin.social 32 points 6 months ago

I read ATACMS as Attack 'Ems

[-] Jaysyn@kbin.social 26 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)
[-] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Being not a fan of someone saying "good" in regards to the death of 100 human beings is not equitable to being a fan of Putin. That is what we call a non sequitur; they do not relate to each other in a way that supports you making that conclusion.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago

Uh-oh. Russia might be running out of ~~prisoners~~... ~~forced conscripts~~... patriotic warriors.

[-] jaschen@lemm.ee 7 points 6 months ago

They will probably start sending China prisoners to the front lines first. Fuck the CCP.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Are we just imagining stuff now? Let me try...

They will probably send [venezuelan prisoners] to the front lines first. Fuck [Venezuela]

[-] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

One hundred Venezuelans with vuvuzelas in their vulvas.

[-] burgermeister@lemm.ee 22 points 6 months ago

Missiles are dumb, war is dumb, killing 100 people is dumb

[-] MushuChupacabra@lemmy.world 48 points 6 months ago

They'd be alive today if Vladimir Putin didn't invade Ukraine.

[-] burgermeister@lemm.ee 33 points 6 months ago

Vladimir Putin is dumb

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Sure. And they'd be alive today if they were slightly to the left or right of the blast zone. But their deaths won't bring us any closer to Putin not invading Ukraine.

We're going to see a hundred dead Ukrainians in a retaliation strike. And then another hundred dead Russians in a retaliation for the retaliation. Etc, etc, etc.

All this death isn't achieving its end goals. Its just piling up more and more corpses.

[-] venusaur@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

sad how easily people can be made to celebrate the death of 100 people they know nothing about.

[-] Bronzie@sh.itjust.works 14 points 6 months ago

While I agree with your point in general, I too «celebrate» russian soldiers being eliminated.
The pure, evil brutality their countrymen have shown the world in the last two years is beyond comprehension.

So I guess it’s more celebrating every Ukranian who gets to live because these men died, if that makes sense.

I’d much prefer they get to go home of course. I think most of us do.

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Okay, but what if I told you the missile guys were the Good Guys and the dead guys were the Bad Guys?

Maybe I could even establish that Good Guys got more points, so they are now Winning?

Are you against Good Guys Winning?

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[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 18 points 6 months ago

I really hope we’re giving them Block 1A or later, because those have a max range of 170-186 miles, which is juuuuuust enough to reach the Kerch bridge from behind the front of battle.

[-] Lewo@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago

Trying to demolish a capital structure like a bridge with rockets would be incredibly wasteful, they're better spent for precision strikes on ammo depots, airports, vehicle storage, etc. The payload of the long-range ATACMS is only 214kg, somewhat on par with the FAB-500 bomb, which carries around 200kg with stated TNT equivalent of about 300kg. The truck explosion on that bridge last year was estimated at around 10 tons TNT equivalent, it barely shifted a couple slabs, and was fixed within weeks.

Using sea drones to take out supports might be a better idea, they're at least considerably cheaper.

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

You want to move the most expensive western missiles into range of the cheapest Russian artillery?

Oh, you’re right. Wouldn’t want to use any of that nice military hardware - OPFOR might scratch it.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Ideally, you use the very expensive long range artillery at long range.

You don't run it right up to the front line so the opposition can hit it with a big rock fired out of a catapult that costs a fraction as much.

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[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago

What’s the significance e of the Kerch bridge

[-] CraigeryTheKid@lemm.ee 16 points 6 months ago

Kerch bridge

only land bridge from actual Russia to Crimea - isolates Crimea from support/reinforcements & supplies

[-] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It’s less critical now, but Kerch is still a very valuable supply artery that doesn’t have to go through the Donbas and the higher risk of Ukrainian strikes.

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 13 points 6 months ago

It’s one of Russia’s main supply arteries into Ukraine. They built it after they invaded Crimea back in 2014.

[-] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 14 points 6 months ago

Is this actually is a good use of the ATACMS? I mean 100 troop isn't nothing, but oil refineries or, plane hangers, or tank garages, I think would be better suited for their use. Anybody have additional information on their usage?

[-] AlteredStateBlob@kbin.social 15 points 6 months ago

Do you realize how much effort and resources are expended in raising and training 100 human beings? That's thousands of rounds of ammo not being shot at Ukrainian soldiers, because dead men carry no guns, operate no equipment and don't pass on their experience to new soldiers.

It's all around horrible what's going on, but 100 soldiers are no laughing matter. Robotyne was defended by 4 soldiers at one point some weeks ago. Russia has been trying to retake that village since they lost it last year.

[-] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

The U.S. doesn’t allow Ukraine to use U.S. weapons inside Russian territory. England apparently does now but I don’t know if anyone else does. (That’s why Ukraine-built drones are used to attack oil refineries and the like.)

[-] bluGill@kbin.social 3 points 6 months ago

I don't think these reach any refinery so that isn't an option. What is best is anything that sows confusion.

[-] Lewo@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago

The soldiers would have been out of reach of Ukraine's shorter-range ATACMS missiles

Shorter-range ATACMS still have a range of 165km (103 miles), why would a position 50 miles behind the front lines be unreachable for them? It's likely that Ukraine is currently expending their existing stock now that they know more is coming.

[-] Jimmyeatsausage@lemmy.world 34 points 6 months ago

They also have to keep their launchers at a safe enough distance from Russian weapon systems...so 50 miles behind Russian lines is likely at least 100 miles from the target...right at the edge of the range you mentioned.

[-] TheEighthDoctor@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

So...send Zelensky to the gulag and instate a Lukashenko type puppet, give half of the territory to Russia (and the rest later when they feel like it), stay out of NATO and help Russia invade Moldova next. Great plan my guy

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