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[-] Transporter_Room_3@startrek.website 143 points 6 months ago

Well, I'm glad I didn't end up buying it last week like I wanted to. I decided to wait another paycheck instead.

Saved me wasting time or money.

Honestly people shit on review-bombing over specific incidents but this is the kind of thing that 100% deserves it.

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[-] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 141 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I am curious how this is going to effect the number of active players. I know a lot of people who were trying to get me to play this saying it was here to stay and not a trend like a Lethal Company but I feel like this hurdle might be enough to get them to give up.

I definitely have a low level of tolerance for Russian nesting dolls of accounts and launchers.

[-] li10@feddit.uk 80 points 6 months ago

I’d be surprised if it really has much of an impact on number of players tbh.

Most people don’t care, Lemmy/Reddit are a vocal minority.

[-] Aphelion@lemm.ee 110 points 6 months ago

The game racked up over 10k negative reviews in 90 minutes yesterday. People are pissed. There's also the issue of PSN only being available in a about a third of all countries.

I just uninstalled the game over this and I have 350+ hours.

[-] theareciboincident@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 6 months ago

They fumbled a (bigger) bag with this whole dungeon master Joel meme. This will be the last straw for many.

The player base is tearing itself apart with conservatives getting genuinely furious about the Creek incident and team-killing participants on sight while everyone else just wants to have fun playing the game.

With things like these you need to lean HARD away from the idiot fascists in all media out of game. They did not, and are reaping the consequences.

[-] alilbee@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

What in the world happened? I played a lot in the first few weeks and remember the Creek situation as just being some people who played that planet constantly. How tf did real world politics come into that situation specifically?

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[-] NeryK@sh.itjust.works 36 points 6 months ago

Vocal minority is the assumption when this sort of collective outrage manifests. This time though, thanks to Steam player count we will actually get some hard numbers and see if that has an effect or not.

[-] piskertariot@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

At current, there are 32k negative reviews. That's 32,000 people angry enough to go add or modify a review to be negative. The active player base is 100k. As far as "vocal minority" goes...

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[-] Kazumara@discuss.tchncs.de 118 points 6 months ago

Sony has a record of not respecting its workers, users or consumers.

2005 Sony BMG copy protection rootkit scandal

2011 PlayStation Network hack

2014 Sony Pictures hack

Now they want more userdata and kernel level anticheat. Surely there is no way for this to backfire

[-] Ultragigagigantic@lemmy.world 87 points 6 months ago

Another victory lap for patient gamers.

There is a lifetime of content to consume without taking video games or the internet into account. You are optional.

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[-] Bougie_Birdie 84 points 6 months ago

I remember when it came out people were saying it's anti-cheat was basically malware. Denuvo, I think?

Anyway, it's disappointing because I hear it's a truly great game. But between this and that, I think I'm soured on the idea of playing.

[-] Aphelion@lemm.ee 78 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

An hour after this announcement was made, a tiny update was pushed via GamGuard to steam players and now there's a .DLL file that's being flagged by antivirus as a malware. My AV detects and cleans the file, making the game completely broken. There a Steam discussion about this issue and, surprise surprise, the file in question is used by GameGuard.

I'm sure it has nothing to do with Sony's recent announcement of their patent for biometric harassment detection.

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[-] sverit@lemmy.ml 76 points 6 months ago
[-] Godnroc@lemmy.world 43 points 6 months ago

Data is beautiful.

[-] casmael@lemm.ee 67 points 6 months ago

Wow what the fuck has happened?!

[-] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 182 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

They're mandating you have a playstation account to play on PC. That was always in the terms, and on the steam page, but you didn't have to. Until very recently.

And if you don't live in one of the 65 countries where PSN operates, you can go fuck yourself, because your game just stopped working.

[-] casmael@lemm.ee 71 points 6 months ago

Wow fuck all that

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[-] LoamImprovement@beehaw.org 32 points 6 months ago

Sony dropped an announcement requiring PSN accounts, even for PC players with no cross play enabled, presumably because it makes the numbers look better to their shareholders. Apparently it was supposed to be a requirement at launch but the PSN servers were busted and it was preventing people from getting in so they 'temporarily' disabled it.

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[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 64 points 6 months ago

Look, I got hit with that stupid 2011 data breach PSN had and I still get scam emails with details from that due to the unique stuff I put in my various accounts. I'm not going to try to resurrect my now defunct account or create a new one so they can do more data mining and lose more of my PII, again.

[-] reksas@sopuli.xyz 58 points 6 months ago

I sure am happy i didnt buy this earlier because of the enforced rootkit.

[-] kaputter_Aimbot@feddit.de 27 points 6 months ago

Kernel Level Anti Cheat... In a co-op game!?

Why they did this is beyond me! 😔

[-] Retrograde@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

Oh no! Billy cheated his way to a new cape!! 🙄

It really is quite silly. There aren't even leaderboards or anything

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[-] potentiallynotfelix@lemmy.ml 53 points 6 months ago

Well deserved imo

[-] BobbyNevada@discuss.tchncs.de 48 points 6 months ago

Say what you will about the giant bugs and socialist toasters, but they never sold out their own for a percentage.

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[-] adventurer@lemmy.world 41 points 6 months ago

i don’t even care about making the account, it’s just a throwaway email and password, but the rug pull for players from other countries isn’t fair at all

[-] ansiz@lemmy.world 36 points 6 months ago

This is far too common with games now, all over Steam as well. RDR2 is a great example, the Rockstar launcher and social club is total dogshit!

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[-] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 33 points 6 months ago

Can someone explain what is the big deal of creating a Playstation account? I know they've added the requirement retroactively, and I know everyone wants steam to be it's own thing, but this is not really a unique situation.. I have a lot of games across many publishers that have their own useless accounts tied to it. What makes this different?

[-] 0xD@infosec.pub 72 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The big deal is that you are now forced to create an account with yet another service and give them analytics about your behavior, for literally no benefit to you.

Even though this is widely accepted, this is just not okay in any case. Not when Ubisoft did it, not now.

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[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 32 points 6 months ago

This is no different than your other games with useless.one off accounts. That's the problem. They all are a problem. I bought red dead 2 and refunded it as soon as I was required to create a rockstar account. It serves no purpose to me, I don't need it or want it. If we don't push back these useless account things will keep being added.

And retroactive add is a massive problem. They took people's money then screwed them after. It sets the precedent that this is acceptable if people just take it.

What's next? Removing areas and features of games after release for something that you paid for?

It's scummy.

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[-] psmgx@lemmy.world 32 points 6 months ago

no shit a bunch of my friend picked it up last month and were bugging me to buy it and join them. I get paid today and had planned on buying this weekend.

but I ain't got a playstation or PSN account so ima hold off. im not sure all of my friends do either, for that matter. back to modded CP2077 it is!

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[-] 50_centavos@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago

"Term of service"? Shmerms of shmervice. Fuck all the way off, there's a hundred other games that we can be playing.

[-] Carighan@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago

It's so random, too. Just... why?! The other way around, sure, after all the PC player base is the big fish. But eh?

[-] Arbiter@lemmy.world 35 points 6 months ago
[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 16 points 6 months ago

People really should have stopped buying anything Sony back with the original rootkit scandal.

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[-] adam_y@lemmy.world 20 points 6 months ago

Hypetrain game + publisher shenanigans... Pretty sure I've heard this one before.

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[-] LoamImprovement@beehaw.org 20 points 6 months ago

Imagine having a golden goose and wanting to make pâté out of it. Sure does make me want to buy Ghost of Tsushima when it comes out, totally.

[-] ocassionallyaduck@lemmy.world 18 points 6 months ago

Lol, it's still got hundreds of thousands playing.

Theres some angry outrage for sure, but it don't think it's gonna wind up that bad in the end.

It's annoying, but it's like an Origin account for an EA game or something. At least with crossplay, having one admin team to manage bans on both platforms makes sense to streamline things.

[-] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 29 points 6 months ago

How do you think bans are working right now? You realize that you don't HAVE to have an account. All they do is assign a mirrored account to your steam ID on PSN. Or even just assign you a random one in general.

Nothing about this process streamlines anything any further, they're already doing it.

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[-] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

For anyone who actually cares this was a requirement from the start they paused it due to some issues.

People need to read stuff before buying it.

[-] franklin@lemmy.world 27 points 6 months ago

Yeah but also it's a bullshit requirement. Should be removed imo.

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[-] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 23 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Nah brother. Because it's in the TOS doesn't make it OK, and in some cases, even legally enforceable.

Why are you sticking up for some arbitrary shitty corporate decision and feel the need to shift the blame to people who bought, and now supposedly OWN, the game?

I can respect it if you're doing it for money, we all gotta eat. But if it's for free, you're just an ass

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