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submitted 1 year ago by lemmee_in@lemm.ee to c/collapse@sopuli.xyz
  • A rising number of young Americans are disconnected from work, school, and a sense of purpose.
  • Disconnection rates have been increasing since the 1990s, affecting young people's futures.
  • Poor mental health and a lack of a financial safety net contribute to rising disconnection.
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[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 62 points 1 year ago

Are you kidding? The parents can't figure out why? Really? Neither can mine by the way.

They don't understand that the social contract is broken. Working for a living wage is a concept that's all but disappeared. A job can't pay the rent and food. And employers aren't giving any significant pay raises or promotions in order to cut costs. They've been through TWO major economic events - 2008 and COVID - and the massive layoffs that go with them.

I think I heard Jimmy Carr say something about this along the lines of the reason that millennials and the younger generations play so much video games is that it's the only way to experience the fantasy of actually doing something and progressing in any significant way that we don't experience any more in real life. And forget about owning a home and building a family with kids and all that. It's become incredibly difficult and something reserved for the wealthy elite.

Boomer parents who were able to get a well paying job with a high school degree and got good raises their whole life will never understand this.

[-] Eheran@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

You don't need to play video games to accomplish something and feel progression. Any hobby will do that. Some are essentially for free, other than the time spend. Hence I do not see that one specific connection. Otherwise should be a good starting point to figure the reasons out.

[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

Of course! But, I'm saying it e generation in general has been doing that to fill a void.

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

There never was a social contract lol what are you talking about?

You people act like the capitalists weren't always trying to get the most out of us while giving us as little as possible...but none of you will change your buying habits or sacrifice anything to save the system.

Kids rail against how hopeless it is while spending $20 on chipotle and paying these companies they're complaining about.

[-] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago

Not sure I agree, no matter what way you cut it, Boomers/Gen X were sold a turd , sure it was disguised as a snickers and they chewed away with gusto, embracing it with both hands but what they did can't be replicated even though most of them refuse to even acknowledge that, Limits to Growth within a finite biosphere etc pollution, population, resource depletion, climate chnage etc all catching up with us.

Lamenting it's loss is bizzare, it was a turd to begin with. Entitled white folks fucking the biosphere and minorities over and living off that explotation is surley fucking toxic.

Not recognizing it for what it was and poviting to a sustainable lifestyle (from about say the '70s or 80s) is however even bizarrer and inevitably has lead us to where we are.

That "young people" are tempted with the same stupid snickers turd and lamet not being able to chow down is just indoctrination writ large I guess.

[-] paysrenttobirds@sh.itjust.works 37 points 1 year ago

I don't think it's just not getting a fair slice-- they don't like the pie.

When I was 20, there was hope that technology was serving us better, we could (and would) fix pollution and global warming, people's health around the world was improving, open space and protections for wildlife were increasing. Progress seems much less of a straight line now, and young people I know are skeptical of human effort in general. The easy solution seems to be just do less and have less, which doesn't motivate you to work for rich people. I don't agree with all of the gloom, but you can't expect them to just snap out of it.

[-] 800XL@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

And now tech is used solely for marketing and surveillance of the people who created it. Back in the day we knew new ground breaking tech would be used for weapons, but at least those weapons weren't mostly pointed at the residents of the country that invented it.

[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Foucault tried to warn us

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 20 points 1 year ago

Yeah more and more there's a sense of "what's the point" among young people, and having few supports and being burnt out from multiple jobs just makes it worse. Most of their energy gets spent on trying to make it to the next week or month, and from whatever's left they can't really even think about saving up for anything.

You're working for older people's pensions that you'll never see. You're working to fill the pockets of the rich owner class. If I didn't have a very specific goal and a decent amount of support from my family, I don't know if I would have gotten through a rough patch in my life after finishing university.

[-] TheFriar@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Sounds like ideal conditions for a long-overdue Riot Time.

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Nah just STOP BUYING FUCKING BULLSHIT.

Every time this comes up we have the solution but some lazy spoiled fucked says "well coke or chips are the only thing that makes my life good".

That's fucking pathetic.

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 year ago

Coke and chips is pretty low on the list of problems when struggling to find a decent full time job or trying to afford education.

[-] TheFriar@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Although Coca Cola the company has a pretty goddamn monstruos history. So they’re not really blameless in the wonderous history of capitalism. And lays is owned by Pepsi. So…yeah, chips and soda are pretty good examples of contributing to the societal rot that capitalism has left in its wake.

But then again, the person you’re replying to is still off the base and I don’t support their “vote with your wallet” message in response to direct action.

[-] ChexMax@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

We're not buying anything, we're choosing between rent, groceries, and healthcare. Grow up.

[-] HauntedCupcake@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I love how this has gone from Starbucks, to Avocado toast, and now to Coke and Chips.

Even the disparaging boomers have had to drop the quality of "small thing to help make it through the day" from something that cost $10+ to something that costs less than $2.

I don't know how they can be cognisant enough to figure that out, but not see the world decaying around them

[-] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Almost 2 months every year for my brothers are dedicated to fucking standardized tests, they’re way longer and worse than when I was a kid and it was like 3 days a year. What can you even learn when every couple months you have to spend a whole month learning nothing and taking tests?

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

Yep and as a professional now, none of those standardized tests I took in high-school are relevant to me.

[-] Dkarma@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

They're supposed to qualify you for college you moron...

[-] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

No they don’t, standardized tests determine funding for the schools, punishing poorly performing schools and giving additional resources to schools already doing well.

[-] tearsintherain@leminal.space 4 points 1 year ago

Over emphasis on testing is an early introduction to the zero-sum game of capitalism. Rather than reasonable and helpful testing, to help students and teachers gauge where they are. It's about performance, students as numbers/beans, and as you said, about funding. Conservatives especially love this approach, school and students as a business, merely as future workers.

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Calling me a moron doesn't bolster your point, fyi.

I also went through the Canadian education system, where SAT scores, AP etc aren't required. I wrote an essay on my club, volunteer and educational experience to qualify for my university.

To me, standardized tests sound like hoops schools force kids to jump through and yet another middleman you have to pay to be able to access college. Those things are also completely skippable if you have rich enough parents.

Back to the main point, I'm saying that the AP tests I did have no relevance to much of what I did in college or in my job now, so kids spending much of their time grinding for these tests seems like a waste to me.

[-] LilDestructiveSheep@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

I think that's gonna be a global issue very soon. I'm a millennial in the EU and feel already like that. I more often see it in younger generations.

I get financially by. That's it. No huge savings. I don't own a car because it would just make it more expensive to be alive. Thinking about buying a house or apartment? Hell no.

[-] babyaubrey001@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Right it's our fault the entire world, the government,the economy is on the verge of collapsing and staying in work and school will solve all of our problems we can't afford to have a life, staying in school to get into work is pointless having a job is pointless you can't afford to live anyways. So who's fault is it let's think real hard about that.

[-] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

I don't think giving up is the solution though.

Laying around being a burden is the worst way to go about it.

[-] babyaubrey001@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Actually I do understand more than most other gen z people. I was buying and cooking my own food since I was 14 my parents never cared. I've worked everyday of my life right after highschool I'm actually going to college this fall I'm just pointing out it's difficult to even get a job at all anymore even if you apply to a million different jobs so getting through school nowadays isn't exactly going to get you very far in this age we live in

[-] Aussiemandeus@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, just gotta keep pushing. I'm the end of melenials and life's not peachy but you just gotta keep swimming. Just like dory said

[-] babyaubrey001@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I feel that I was just barely at the beginning of the genz 97 I do appreciate you understanding

[-] fireweed@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

A growing group of America's young people are not in school, not working, or not looking for work. They're called "disconnected youth" or "opportunity youth,"

There's already a term for this: NEET. Not in Education, Employment, or Training

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