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Anon watches The Last Samurai (sh.itjust.works)
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[-] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 120 points 4 months ago

Isn't The First Weeaboo a movie about a white American who is traumatized by and hates American culture coming to Japan and finding friendship, community, peace, love and happiness in traditional Japanese culture, with a couple of kinda cool action scenes?

Yeah, can't figure out why the Japanese like this movie.

[-] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 37 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

and finding friendship, community, peace, love and happiness

Good luck trying to get 4channers to understand what any of those words mean, especially after the spirit of NTR has been invoked.

[-] S_H_K@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 months ago

Good luck trying to get 4channers to understand what any of those words mean

And that can be said for so many topics.

[-] olutukko@lemmy.world 66 points 4 months ago

I highly recommend watching shogun by the way. the new one, not the 80s one

[-] lunarul@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago

What's wrong with the 80s one? I loved that show

[-] olutukko@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago

just clarified what version I meant😄 but I aldo read that it's not as accurate to the book and has a lotnof stuff cut out

[-] lunarul@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

has a lotnof stuff cut out

I was surprised, because in my memory the show ran for years and was very slow paced. So I looked it up, and it seems I was thinking of a different series (Kung Fu, 1972)

[-] Bartsbigbugbag@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 months ago

Kung Fu was supposed to star Bruce Lee. It was stolen out from under him because white people and racism. In response he wrote Warrior, which his daughter finally got made recently. Definitely worth a watch.

[-] olutukko@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

haha, can't remember anything😄

[-] Randelung@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Little disappointing towards the end, but all in all fantastic.

[-] Rakonat@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

They are definitely banking on season 2

[-] Hasuris@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 months ago

Wasn't this planned as a limited series? I know there's talk here and there about a second season but there's nothing confirmed yet.

[-] olutukko@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

I haven't got it to the end yet. I think I'm at sixth episode, sitill holding up really well imo

[-] Rakonat@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Series is great, last episode covers a lot of ground but simultaneously feels like trying to summarize the series as a whole while also build hype for a second season.

[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 31 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

People like it when anyone engages with their history/culture earnestly.

I think in this case you also have the weird juxtaposition of an American in the story of Japan moving to a western style system and leaving behind their isolationist policies.

[-] roscoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 4 months ago

I like Paul Mooney's take on that movie.

You'll have to look it up yourselves though. My complexion prohibits me from accurately quoting almost everything that Paul Mooney has ever said.

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 32 points 4 months ago

I found this comment while looking for the quote.

The words samurai is considered the plural form. The movie is about Lord Katsumoto and his clan of samurai during the period in the transformation of Japan from a feudal society into a modern industrial power. Not exclusively about Tom Cruise’s character. Katsumoto felt that Japan was changing too rapidly and it’s losing its cultural values and traditions in the rush to become regional power.

Still not interested in seeing a Tom Cruise movie, but it's an interesting insight that goes past the normal knee jerk reaction.

[-] roscoe@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Oh yeah, it's absolutely a very interesting period in Japanese history and if Cruise's character was used as a symbol of the fear of westernization of Japan post Meiji Restoration, that would be cool. Most of the criticism revolved around Hollywood's habit of using western actors to tell other people's stories. Samurai being is own plural form is just a happy accident that makes the jokes easier.

But he was just there as a big name for box office draw, and probably as an excuse to ditch a lot of subtitles. If I'm inclined to be ungenerous, I have a few other suspicions as well.

It's kind of like Kundun vs. Seven Years in Tibet. It's as if a studio executive said "Yeah, that's a great story, but let's stick Brad Pitt in there to put asses in seats." But at least with the latter, it was based on a book written by the real life traveler.

[-] refalo@programming.dev 4 points 4 months ago

The words samurai is considered the plural form

That's... not how Japanese works

[-] oatscoop@midwest.social 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

English (like any other language) likes to take loan words and apply its conventions to them, regardless of what the original language does. "Samurai" is singular and plural in English.

"The Last Samurai" is vague in who it's referring to.

[-] refalo@programming.dev 1 points 4 months ago

I said Japanese though, not English. "samurai" is both singular and plural in both languages

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

What are you arguing about? The statement I quoted said that "samurai" is plural. Nothing that you said has contradicted that. In fact, you're only agreeing with it with this last statement. Doesn't matter that it didn't mention if it can be used as singular as it's not relevant.

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 15 points 4 months ago

We welcome our new tiny European overlords.

[-] amio@kbin.social 4 points 4 months ago

Really more of a middlelord at most.

[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 12 points 4 months ago

I wonder if this also correlates to an increase in popularity of Scientology in Japan

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 6 points 4 months ago

They've got their own cults to worry about.

[-] atocci@kbin.social 3 points 4 months ago

That's what the Thingamajigâ„¢ was for

[-] mindbleach@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

I love how I've never heard it called that, and yet immediately knew exactly what it was.

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