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More than 170 attacks have been committed against politicians in the lead-up to the June elections. This violence has put campaigns under tension and is sowing doubts about governability in several regions. Specialists warn that the line between the Mexican state and organized crime is increasingly blurred

Electoral violence is going unchecked in Mexico. Noé Ramos Ferretiz, a candidate for the municipal presidency of Mante, a city in the state of Tamaulipas, was campaigning last Friday when he was stabbed several times. The politician, who is a member of the National Action Party (PAN), died in the middle of the event, to the shock of his supporters. Overwhelming images of blood-stained leaflets circulated afterwards.

The main suspect fled without a trace, in broad daylight. He would be arrested by the end of the weekend. Hours after the crime in Mante, the body of Alberto Antonio García, a mayoral candidate for the ruling party, MORENA, was found in the city of San José Independencia, in the state of Oaxaca. His wife, a councilor in the town of fewer than 5,000 inhabitants, was released alive after being kidnapped for two days.

The murders of Ramos Ferretiz and Antonio García are the latest two cases to be registered during the 2024 electoral process. So far in this election cycle, 30 candidates have already been murdered, according to data from the think tank Laboratorio Electoral (“Electoral Laboratory”).

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[-] qooqie@lemmy.world 83 points 6 months ago

I wish Mexico had a better system, this sort of shit is a tragedy. I don’t know how or even when this will change, but I’m hopeful it will one day in my life

[-] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 10 points 6 months ago

It is changing. Not as fast as almost every Mexican would want it to, but it is clearly changing for good if you take a look at the numbers.

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[-] geography082@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago

They need to be freedomed by the Americans.

[-] maynarkh@feddit.nl 32 points 6 months ago

Being freedomed by the Americans is what leads a ton of countries to being like this.

[-] 3volver@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

I don't know, Japan got freedomed pretty hard in 1945.

[-] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 6 months ago

Japan, while being no stranger to political assassinations, was nowhere near as bad as the state Mexico's in.

[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 24 points 6 months ago

No, they certainly do not.

[-] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 months ago

Yes, because that's historically worked out super well.

It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal

[-] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 months ago

No, we don't. We will resist these attempts, actively and passively.

[-] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 59 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

As a mexican living in Mexico, the struggle is real. What is not real is the OP in bold letters. The so called "specialists" are usually a bunch of so-called activists campaigning in the election against the party in power.

There's also the magnitude of the election not being accounted for. These elections are the biggest in history. It's only logical that, assuming the high homicide rate in the country, the absolute numbers will be higher. It really sounds like another article trying to tie our president with the organized crime, something that has been shyly thrown at the average citizen several times now. If there was any evidence of this "blurry" line between government and cartels, the opposition to the President and his party would have already use it, since there's only one month left for campaigning. Instead, we have a paid bot campaign in X/Twitter, a millionaire one, financed by who knows whose money, trying to portray the president as a cartel boss or something. A failing campaign, if we look at the numbers.

[-] possum@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago

I agree on your comment about the current situation. It is very violent. Either it’s getting more reporting than previous years or it actually is as bad as it seems. But I might be misunderstanding the tone of your comment here, it reads very apologetic of the current government to me:

It really sounds like another article trying to tie our president with the organized crime, something that has been shyly thrown at the average citizen several times now.

Maybe because it’s true? As another mexican, I have absolutely no doubt the government is working with cartels in different regions in exchange of more control, both ways. And I’m not saying it happened just in this administration, it’s been happening for at least 20 years.

My take is that some regions where the government wants bigger control are currently controlled by rival cartels where the government currently has bigger control in.

I also find it a bit cynical so write that this fact is being “shyly thrown around”, why are there so many articles about it then? The current president –the face of the government– had been seen multiple times visiting el Chapo’s mom. Very shy of him.

[-] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago

The articles are based on no evidence whatsoever. They cite each other and ultimately cite a dropped DEA investigation from 2006.

I find stupid to call the president a cartel asset, yes, I guess that's cynical. And I'm cynical because everyone knows the president visits every locality of the country. He won't skip that place only because a cartel leader grew up there. He didn't go there to visit the old lady, he did visit the locality. As I said before, that woman is already dead, her son and one of her grandsons are in prison. It's okay if you take it as proof, that's you, just don't try to make it pass as undeniable evidence of the president working for some cartel.

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[-] Mexigore@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

Is the president having dinner with El Chapo's mom enough evidence for you? It might not be straight up evidence but it does point towards it

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[-] Siegfried@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

Mas alla de que sea cierto lo que decis, me sigue pareciendo una locura pensar en que rapten o asesinen candidatos por una eleccion. Hay alguna tendencia entre las victimas? Son de algun partido en particular?

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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 49 points 6 months ago

Being reported due to being from El Pais, but they have a VERY high credibility rating:

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/el-pais/

Not sure what the beef is here, someone mind explaining?

[-] antaymonkey@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago
[-] maynarkh@feddit.nl 18 points 6 months ago

Against whom? I'm not being facetious, I am just uninformed to the motivation.

[-] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 6 months ago

I have no idea about the back story here but being mexican, there racism against indigenous Mexicans, and darker skin mixed Mexicans. Mexicans that are light skinned are seen in a better light by our own people.

[-] VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

That's not uncommon for non white populations (groups?) I've read the same thing about Japanese people, Chinese and Indian people. Darker skin people are subjected to more discrimination than their lighter skinned countrymen.

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[-] guyrocket@kbin.social 20 points 6 months ago

Not really a democracy at this point, is it?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

The question is- is it more or less of a democracy then when it was a one-party state for most of the 20th century?

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[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago
[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 31 points 6 months ago

I checked the wikipedia list and Jesus is just about the only candidate name that hasn't been murdered.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_politicians_killed_during_Mexican_elections

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

No point in murdering Jesus. Three days later he comes back and starts campaigning again.

[-] No_Eponym@lemmy.ca 6 points 6 months ago

And potentially hunt you down and try and make you eat some of his flesh to prove you failed.

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[-] suction@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

That’s way too much. I’d be fine with just one candidate murdered.

[-] statist43@feddit.de 8 points 6 months ago
[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Of all the places the US does aggressive intervention in, I’m always surprised they aren’t more heavily involved in Mexico.

[-] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 6 months ago

They were and probably are. Which is why Mexico has these problems.

[-] kingshrubb@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Must be all those guns flooding across the border from USA.

[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

And that's not all. If I may be permitted a moment of sarcasm. Imagine all the funerals and all the walking....from the funeral home to the church and from there to the Pantheon. And all the singing. Specially from the church to their final resting place...."desdel Cielo una enorme tostada! Desdel Cielo una enorme tostada! Yera de Tijuana, yera de Tijuana, yera de Tijuana so nombre y su faz!" And it's not that I don't enjoy the classics, but you know your cousin's sister's friend's grand aunt with one working eye is coming specifically to sing it. She's walking at the end of the precession but you can hear that voice piercing through your soul at the front. You probably wanna jump in the casket if they let you. And it never ends! Some one right now is still writing that darn song! "Con mi chankla en el culo le dabaaaa, con mi chankla en el culo le dabaaaa! Mira con mi tabla! Mira con mi tabla ye voy a pagar! Mira con mi tabla...." Maybe just maybe that song could have been local and I just gave away my origin story. I don't know. It's possible I suppose.

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[-] Heni_meat_smasher_69@ani.social 5 points 6 months ago

Jesus Christ can you stop spamming elpais news?

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 51 points 6 months ago

OP sending 3 El Pais links across a 5 day period isn't spamming, and they are a legitimate news source.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/el-pais/

[-] Heni_meat_smasher_69@ani.social 2 points 6 months ago

They're not a legitimate source. And they're right winged...

[-] VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

How are they not legitimate? Put up or shut up.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

They are not right wing and they are a legitimate source:

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/el-pais/

"Overall, we rate El Pais Left-Center biased based on story selection and editorial positions that slightly favor the left. We also rate them High for factual reporting due to proper sourcing and a clean fact-check record."

[-] FaizalR@kbin.social 4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Democracy is a threat to the human.

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[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

So did they at least catch the guy? I mean a knife doesn't make you run faster so I assume he got caught?

[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 10 points 6 months ago

You clearly have never played counter strike.

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