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[-] hactar42@lemmy.world 110 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

This is the thing I love the most about the younger generations now.

  • Boomers: If you don't like it do something about it
  • Gen-X: nah we're too nihilistic
  • Millennials: sorry we're too busy trying to survive on the scraps you left us
  • Boomers: that's what I thought

Now:

  • Boomers: If you don't like it do something about it
  • Gen-Z/Alpha: okay!
  • Boomers: no, not like that!
[-] lqdrchrd 72 points 7 months ago

The kids are alright

[-] Gluten6970@lemm.ee 33 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Millennials are also protesting. Did you forget all the protests in the 2000s and 2010s? It's not like we stopped either.

[-] HuntressHimbo@lemm.ee 20 points 7 months ago

As millenials I think the best thing we can do for the later generations is to just take a back seat. Thanks to boomers our generation has never held political power, and if we accept that and immediately pass to the younger gens instead of trying to make up for lost time I think we will leave them in a better spot.

[-] WamGams@lemmy.ca 13 points 7 months ago

As an almost 40 year old, nahh, we aren't skipping 2 generations to give the power to zoomers just because some rich kids are protesting.

We protested too. Don't forget that.

[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 5 points 7 months ago

Definitely not - the boomers are finally on the way out. The boomers have held on way past their time, and we can't afford to let Gen X have a turn... They're the ones who need to take a back seat - they're nearing retirement age if they haven't hit that point already, millennials are in our 30s and 40s

We need to support and join together with the younger generations. We might not be as young as we used to be, but we're prime age to start taking office and organizing/enabling

[-] loomi@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

We Gen x have been practicing taking a back seat our entire lives. As a generation we still don’t outnumber the boomers. Or we just crossed them on the graph. Pre covid we were supposed to finally cross around 2027. Covid might have skewed the projections. Kind of explains why we are the way we are. Never could do fuck all unless the boomers also wanted it.

And now the millennials are the largest group. Yall got the numbers. Use ‘em.

[-] theneverfox@pawb.social 3 points 7 months ago

You guys really are the forgotten generation... My dad claimed to be a millennial the other day, because he forgot there was something in between us and boomers

Millennials were told "put in your time, and eventually it'll be your turn", but we learned early on that "doing everything right" wasn't going to get us anywhere.

I feel like a lot of gen X are hanging onto that like a lifeline (not nearly all of course, there's plenty who don't drink the Kool aid, and took me aside to lay out the truth early). Like despite how only the lucky ones came out ahead, it seems like there's this fear of any change, like it'd tear away what little they've managed to hang on to

Maybe it's because it wasn't entirely a lie for the first half of gen x's career, maybe it's because most of the changes did tear more and more out of reach... Or maybe it's just bias since most of my older family did come out ahead and that led me to find friends with similar life experiences

Granted, I've found older millennials tend to be just as dogmatic if they got ahead, generations are just such broad ranges

What's your take?

[-] loomi@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

I don’t know about the 1/2 half of Gen x careers being necessarily easier. I’m older Gen x born a few years after the generally accepted start for that era.

As a teenager and a young adult I saw that the structures that the silent and boomer generations set up and relied upon weren’t going to be there for me as a senior. Pensions being removed as employment benefits. the GOP demonizing social security and Medicare and underfunding the programs. Graduated from college in a white collar depression. Went though the same multiple crisis that the millennials did, just at a later phase of my life and career development. About the only real advantage my generation had was to be the right age bracket to catch the early internet boom. But also at the right age to catch the outsourcing to China / India boom.

I guess my point is that all the signs were there all along my life of the coming disruptions. I had the right combination of luck factors. Good stable childhood home. Enough food. Decent public schools despite moving as much as I did. Parents that paid for college. No physical or mental issues that prevented me from attacking a career path. Low inflation for most of those years. I did (and do) okay. I’ve helped myself now because I was pretty pessimistic about my future years.

It’s clear to me now we need systemic changes. I had hoped COVID would smack us around enough to give momentum to pivot as a society. But nope! It seems the divisions and right wing political extremism is even worse now. I don’t know where the impetus is going to come from now. For sure it can’t come only from Gen x. We don’t have the numbers. And enough of my generation have fallen down the MAGA cult black hole.

[-] Kichae@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago

Do you know who isn't thinking that way?

The millennial conservatives, right-libertarians, neoliberals, and fascists.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 68 points 7 months ago

See also: "if you care so much about Palestine, why don't you go there and help out yourself?"

IDF specifically targets aid workers, journalists and healthcare workers

[-] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 32 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Transcribed accurately (thank you to spujb@lemmy.cafe for correcting my earlier attempt):

Thembo
@OnlyAWorldAway

Liberals: oh you care about palestine? stop tweeting and do something

*people organize nation-wide protests and actions at great personal risk*

Liberals: you swine. i hope the police beat you into a fine red paste. i hope they come after your families. how dare you

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

why does everyone lowkey suck at transcription in here lol. ~~no hate just confused.~~ small hate? your claims that this is a “transcription” is deceptive and disingenuous to those reliant on alt text and screen readers.

actually 100% accurate transcript as follows:

Thembo
@OnlyAWorldAway

Liberals: oh you care about palestine? stop tweeting and do something

*people organize nation-wide protests and actions at great personal risk*

Liberals: you swine. i hope the police beat you into a fine red paste. i hope they come after your families. how dare you

[-] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Thank you for this, updated my comment. I totally deserve a small bit of hate here because that was a disservice to people who need alt text and screen readers, but for whatever it's worth a) learning to format things properly for screen readers is just something I still need to learn (and if you could point me towards a good resource for that I would definitely be interested), b) I was reacting to a comment that had been in here earlier (seems to have since been removed) that was claiming to be a transcription but changed the actual text of the OP, so I really just wanted to get something more accurate in here, but I should have said that was my best attempt at a transcription instead of just saying it was one.

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 4 points 7 months ago

fair lol. you had added the word “lib” in, same as the deleted comment, which was my main problem. cheers

[-] Arcturus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 7 months ago

db0 isn't holding back for the lemmy libs and I'm here for it

[-] Zagorath@aussie.zone 8 points 7 months ago

I have to say I've really liked this community when I've seen it pop up. Some good lefty stuff without falling into supporting tankies like certain other instances claiming to be leftist do.

[-] TheOtherThyme@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

"Liberal" means free or freely and is an antonym of authoritism. In the US, the word liberal also means left wing and democratic. Please tell me who claims to be liberal but is arguing for police beatings. Because they only claim.

[-] meeshen@vegantheoryclub.org 12 points 7 months ago

Liberalism is the philosophy of the capitalist status quo. It refers to the free flow of money and freedom from feudalism. Both the Republicans and Democrats are liberals. You tool.

read a book that isn't Harry Potter

[-] TheOtherThyme@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Man, you must be super smart in school and such. https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=liberal+

[-] meeshen@vegantheoryclub.org 3 points 7 months ago

Thanks, but I finished school years ago, you should try that too

[-] TheOtherThyme@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Could have fooled me. Choosing your own definition for words the the entire rest of the English speaking population already defined seems like a pretty sophomoric move to me. Calling someone a "tool" sealed the deal. Does that mean that you are ready to leave your inside-only-super-speical-club only meaning to "liberal" behind and start using the word like every else uses it?

[-] meeshen@vegantheoryclub.org 2 points 7 months ago

Read literally any leftist political theory, jesus christ. You're annoying af

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 10 points 7 months ago

Liberalism is the doctrine of Capitalism. It evokes individualism and Private Property Rights, may every man aspire to become a King.

Leftism opposes unjust hierarchy and supports collective ownership of the Means of Production.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 2 points 7 months ago

You're talking about neo-liberalism.

They're as similar to liberals as national socialists are to socialists.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago

I am talking about Liberalism and Liberals. Neo-Liberalism has quite a lot in common with Liberalism.

If you're talking about Social Democrats or progressives, you shouldn't really refer to them as liberals.

[-] Seasm0ke@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

Go check out WA Rep Adam Smiths (D) recent statement. Your average Democrat in politics is a wealthy right winger. Liberal democracy is the flavor of government which effectively institutes a dictatorship of the ownership class and limits the voice of the masses to a ballot box. USAs flavor of democracy is really the perfect example of the illusion of representation.

[-] TheOtherThyme@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

All this is true. But it does nit change the definition of liberal, liberalism, or liberty. I feel like people here are confusing liberalism with neo-liberalis or capitalism.

[-] deft@lemmy.wtf 4 points 7 months ago

Literally no one. But this time like LITERALLY actually not one single person

[-] deft@lemmy.wtf 11 points 7 months ago

"Liberals" see Boogeyman don't say this ever lmfao

nobody says this strawman ass dumb bullshit

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

Things that were totally, totally said /s

[-] dharmacurious@slrpnk.net 4 points 7 months ago

Always relevant Phil Ochs

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