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[-] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 150 points 4 months ago

Click bait avoided, a prerelease build of Windows suggests some kind of general advertising in the start menu beyond promoting ads.

[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 40 points 4 months ago

The article also calls this a "leak." Is it really a leak if it's in the insider Windows build that Microsoft makes freely available to anyone who wants it?

[-] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 21 points 4 months ago

It's datamining a hidden feature. I'd call that a leek.

[-] Floshie 22 points 4 months ago
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[-] kaitco@lemmy.world 27 points 4 months ago

Sounds like we need to start developing ad-blockers based directly within the OS.

[-] rdyoung@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago

Those exist. Use dns based adblockers. You can pick from a variety of services already out there or run your own with pihole.

[-] Dark_Arc@social.packetloss.gg 11 points 4 months ago

Yeah, though ... those don't always work and it is entirely possible to break them if they become overly "pesky" for the corporations.

[-] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Or literally just use the existing option in the settings menu that has been there since Windows 10 to turn this shit off.

All of this is clickbait.

[-] paraphrand@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Until it turns itself back on during an update. Or hey implement another version that has its own off switch buried somewhere, etc.

It’s bloat and hassle.

You shouldn’t have to do maintenance on a brand new Windows install. Set preferences and install apps? Sure. But expecting everyone to go through a checklist of shit to turn off? Nah. That’s user hostile and so tedious.

Checklists and debloating procedures like that can feel like something an expert would do. And can feel like what a good computer user should do, but that’s a limited mindset that is a niche among all Windows platform users.

Warning, car analogy:

Imagine if you bought a new car and had to scrape a bunch of advertisement decals off it. And you have to remove unneeded features like spoilers that are dragging you down. Oh, and randomly in the middle of the night the dealer tracks your car down and applies new decals that you will want to scrape off your windshield when you get a chance.

[-] Stovetop@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Other than the dealer sneaking up in the middle of the night to reapply decals, that is sadly exactly what buying a new car is like.

Or, well, at least from what I've seen and heard from others. Who has money these days for new cars?

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 3 points 4 months ago

Setting preferences is exactly what this is, though.

[-] paraphrand@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago

Having to tell your computer that “My preference is no bloat and marketing.” is a sad state of affairs though.

My whole point is these things shouldn’t need to be configured. Because the bloat and marketing shouldn’t be part of the OS like this.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 5 points 4 months ago

I've worked with a Linux installation that had plenty of bloat and marketing by default too, I spent a fair bit of time combing through it turning off stuff I definitely didn't want. Whether it "should" or "shouldn't" doesn't change that it is.

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[-] Zron@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Imagine depending on a company giving you the privilege of turning off ads in the operating system you paid $100USD for.

MS can get bent, I’m sick of advertising. Read the news, ads, watch any video without Adblock, ads, go out in public to enjoy a day out with my family, ads on every road and square foot of space. Now they want to put ads on the main menu of an operating system I only use to for relaxation and entertainment, but they were oh so kind to give me the option of turning them off for now. I’m not waiting for them to decide to remove the option, I’m going to remove myself from the equation.

I already gave these greedy bastards my money, I just want some peace and quiet while I relax, but that’s too much to ask for these days.

[-] Bizarroland@kbin.social 7 points 4 months ago

Yep. It's my goal to be as unprofitable a citizen for our corporate overlords as possible.

I want them to lose money by doing business with me.

I want them to go bankrupt so that their future replacements can learn from their mistakes and not repeat them.

If they choose to be user hostile, I'll match their energy and multiply it. Fuck em.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 3 points 4 months ago

Clicking a checkbox in a settings menu is so complicated, though!

Simpler to install Linux, a whole new operating system, and try to figure out how to either run your Windows apps there or find new equivalent applications to use.

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[-] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 months ago

Additionally, there has been an option in the settings menu since Windows 10 to disable Microsoft fucking with the start menu and settings "app" like this.

I would be shocked if it doesn't also handle whatever this shit is.

[-] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 63 points 4 months ago

I miss the xda of old, where shitty clickbait articles and ads didn't rule the front page.

[-] limewire@lemmy.cafe 21 points 4 months ago

It's really upsetting seeing the internet transform into this commercialized capitalistic thing that used to be fun.

Now I want to continue this by saying there are still communities and places that have kept true to the free and open internet and not all of it has been commercialized. And there are always fun and exciting projects happening, recently I've been looking at i2p, it's similar to Tor but designed to be self contained and not for browsing the open web instead something called eepsites similar to onion sites.

[-] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

ActivityPub gives me hope for the future of the Internet. I was able to completely replace Reddit with Lemmy after the exodus last year. I never used Twitter, but Mastodon seems like an alternative that's gaining popularity.

The one that seems the hardest to replace is YouTube, since hosting and serving video is very expensive, and many creators have come to rely on monitization.

I'm not sure about I2P being an alternative to the clearnet. It helps prevent censorship, sure, but I don't see how it provides anything that you can't do on the clearnet already, other than anonymity. It's also much harder to set up than Tor for non-tech savvy people. Anyone can already host any website they want on the clearnet.

[-] limewire@lemmy.cafe 8 points 4 months ago

ActivityPub really does feel like the future, or at least the one I hope for, it's been very refreshing and exciting and it gives me much the same feeling as the internet did when I was new.

Video does require a lot of storage unfortunately, and of course it makes sense that creators want money for what they often do. The closest would be that each creator or group setup their own PeerTube, however that comes with cost and administrating, which is not something most would want to do.

I2P is definitely more complex. Unless I2P gets implemented on consumer routers I don't see it becoming really popular, and most things on the internet do not need truly need anonymity even with VPN companies that like to advertise otherwise.

[-] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 18 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yeah, used to be my go-to website for flashing custom ROMs.

Wonder if there's an alternative nowadays, not counting Telegram or Discord channels.

[-] ElectroLisa 9 points 4 months ago

xdaforums.com, looks like the original forum was split from the "news" website

[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 6 points 4 months ago

I feel when the clickbait is this bad, sharing the article should come with a new title.

[-] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 39 points 4 months ago

Cool. I switched to Linux and no longer care about Microsoft's BS. This continues to just reinforce that I made the correct decision.

[-] krimson@feddit.nl 4 points 4 months ago

Welcome!

I’ve been a linux user for maaaaany years but always dual booted to windows for gaming. Got a new pc recently and this time I ditched the windows partition. Gaming on linux has come a long way the last few years and will only get better. Feels good man.

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[-] AbsurdityAccelerator@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

It's honestly hard to find a reason not to switch anymore. I switched myself recently and once I get more comfortable with it, I am putting Linux on my kid's computer as well.

[-] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

My kids have never used a Windows computer. Android and Linux are all they know.

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[-] Ismay@programming.dev 32 points 4 months ago

Damn did I chose a right time to move my gaming pc to Linux 😂

[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 months ago

It's always a good time to switch :)

[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago

Since Google is failing at Ads, my cousin Pedro is opening a brand new Taco and Ads shop! Need tacos and the knowledge of gods? Why not right? It's better than my uncle's engine, coffee, bananas and ads stand. Or my neighbor's "Ads apples and diapers are us".

It's open season on delivering ads. I only learned about my fictional cousin from the bottom of an almond milk carton. He was missing, now he's got ads for you.

[-] avater@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago
[-] _haha_oh_wow_@sh.itjust.works 5 points 4 months ago

Not exactly? But spoiler: It's even more ads! This time as search results.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 5 points 4 months ago
[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

Someone mentioned while I was gaming yesterday and we were discussing Windows 11 and he said "just get an add blocker" and it blew my mind. Like why support a company that thinks "this" is the future? When there are alternatives.

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[-] yourNewFavouriteUser@sh.itjust.works 12 points 4 months ago

"we respect your privacy, so please accept the cookies from our 1542 partners"

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 9 points 4 months ago

Ha, this click bait article won't snag me! I've been paying attention the past 4 years; there IS ALWAYS something worse on the horizon. Only a fool would suspect otherwise these days.

[-] ShaunaTheDead@kbin.social 6 points 4 months ago

Or just switch to Linux. It works flawlessly with everything except games that with anti-cheat that refuse to support it.

[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 9 points 4 months ago

So much simpler than clicking a checkbox in Windows' settings.

[-] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago

Until they take away the checkbox.

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[-] DradoTheHobbit@lemmy.eco.br 3 points 4 months ago

it's like I once read: the best advertisement for Linux, or any other system, is Windows

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