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[-] CaptainEffort@sh.itjust.works 90 points 5 months ago

Seriously wtf is up Nintendo’s ass lately. They’ve always been litigious but the last few years have been pretty extreme.

[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 32 points 5 months ago

It appears to be part of a series of fake DMCAs. Some asshat has been going around dmca-ing sfm, Gmod, and tf2 maps under different names with a lookalike email domain.

[-] huginn@feddit.it 32 points 5 months ago

The fact that DMCA requests don't have to be signed with an asymmetric key that lets you validate the company that sent it was actually behind the request is some of the dumbest shit.

We've known how to use certs online forever. Certainly well before the DMCA. Why the fuck wasn't that a provision?

Oh right because our politicians are tech illiterate apes.

[-] slimerancher@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

Maybe a new head of department?

[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 10 points 5 months ago

Or overcompensation since they acted on emulators and found out there's more to this? Someone's started another useless crusade.

[-] Xatolos@reddthat.com 5 points 5 months ago

The emulator is more likely that the Switch 2 was supposed to be released this year and ended up getting pushed to next year. This means they have to support the Switch fully for another year and it's a harder sell when it's easy for customers to make a choice between:

  • A Switch and 3ish games

Or

  • A Steam Deck that can play all the Switch games for free

When these are both the same price. The fact that instructions were easy to find and follow didn't help.

[-] SomeGuy69@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

I fear they're not going to stop here either. Soon we'll read news about Minecraft mods and other fan content as well. Backup everything.

[-] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 13 points 5 months ago

They're like Japanese Disney. They're nothing without their IP and they know it.

They also know that the only reason they have DK as a character is because Universal dropped the ball in protecting their IP. If they let Garry's Mod casually have a "Mario" character in it, it dilutes their ability to legally go after some other studio who straight up makes an unofficial Mario game.

[-] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

It started after Satoru Iwata's death in 2015. He was a notorious true gamer/engineer before CEO and his vision was always long-term. The two who have replaced him since have decidedly chosen the short-term route for fast profit vs long term consumer binding.

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

I wonder if there being an R4 style cart released recently for the switch has lit a fire under their arses

Maybe they expanded their legal department recently

[-] merdaverse@lemmy.world 75 points 5 months ago

How efficient is it to antagonize people that are actively promoting your own content for free on other platforms? Does this actually work for Nintendo?

[-] Shampiss@sh.itjust.works 20 points 5 months ago

I guess they antagonize anyone that has moderate exposure using their IP

In some countries copyright law says that if you let people use your copyrighted material with little to no impediment then you cannot suddenly request whoever is using your material to stop

Let's say that Nintendo allows fans to make fan made Mario games for 5 years. Then they suddenly sue everyone and say "hey you have to pay for copyright or shutdown". A judge can decide that since they didn't enforce their copyright for some time they cannot sue people that are using their IP.

From a legal perspective the act of policing your own copyrighted material is the company's responsibility. This law prevents companies from relaxing their copyright claims for years (essentially allowing people to use it) and then suing everyone for using their IP. In other words Just let everyone use it, then sue them. The law is there to prevent that

Nintendo is likely super strict because "let people use your copyrighted material with little to no impediment" has room for interpretation in a court room. So they go to the conservative side and shut down everyone. Also consider that they're right next to China. The piracy capital of the world. It's not a surprise they're scared about their copyright.

I'm not saying that what they're doing is right. It's not. But I see where it comes from.

[-] onlinepersona@programming.dev 11 points 5 months ago

People that don't know of this (or don't care) will indiscriminately buy their products. To unseat them it would require a handheld that targets the same market and a killer game for that handheld.

Anti Commercial-AI license

[-] ALoafOfBread@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Nintendo is a "family friendly" brand before all else and really only cares about the experience of children playing their games and adults buying their games for children to play. They count on their core IPs to draw in those kids as adults, but don't put much effort in catering to an adult audience. They put more effort in with the Switch (game store with more adult oriented games), but still minimal effort - their original properties are family friendly.

They see other people using their IP as diluting their brand value rather than promoting it. They think their characters are what makes people nostalgic for their games and drives brand value. So they want you to only be able to see your "favorite Nintendo characters" from Nintendo official sources and have complete control over that experience.

I think they're wrong about most of that. The characters are, for the most part, pretty generic and simple. What people like about Nintendo is that the games are accessible, they played when they were kids, and they were often introduced to those games by parents or older siblings. There's a social context to Nintendo games that is unique and nostalgic. They're often some of the first games you play as a kid, and they're the first games you think of when you want to introduce your own kids/nieces & nephews, etc. to gaming. I don't think that unofficial Super Smash Bros tournaments or Gary's Mod having fan-made Mario models in it dilutes that in the slightest but Nintendo does drive away adults who are the primary drivers of the Nintendo brand's popularity (as they are the purchasers). Once it's these young adults' turn to share Nintendo games with the next generation, I think Nintendo's litigiousness will hurt them because it will have driven many of these people away.

[-] Rikj000@discuss.tchncs.de 54 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Nintendont,
the lawsuit company that makes games on the side, strikes again...

We're well beyond the point by now of me ever buying anything from them again.
I won't support such behavior of any company.

[-] slimerancher@lemmy.world 48 points 5 months ago

According to a comment on another post on lemmy. The takedown notice is fake, probably sent by some troll. Garry's Mod is still removing stuff though, because they think it's real.

Source: https://twitter.com/MonikaCinnyRoll/status/1783244871119106415

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

Legally, they have to, until they get a counter-notice (or realize it's fake).

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[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 40 points 5 months ago

Time to start pirating Nintendo games again

[-] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 15 points 5 months ago
[-] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 3 points 5 months ago

Yarr me hearty

[-] VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Saving this site. I was still using 1337x through a proxy.

Edit: Actually just clicked the link and noticed that I used it before I think for 2 trails games, maybe. I had already bought it on PlayStation and wanted to play it on PC as the whole trails series is on PC and not PlayStation and I owned most of the games at the time on PC so wanted the last of the 2 cold steel games to finish the collection and that way they were in one place.

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[-] Fizz@lemmy.nz 39 points 5 months ago
[-] sir_pronoun@lemmy.world 15 points 5 months ago

You're.. planning to do WHAT to the goombas?!

[-] MeatPilot@lemmy.world 38 points 5 months ago

I heard if you go into your bathroom and turn off the lights. Then close your eyes and spin around three times well saying "Nintendo, Nintendo, Nintendo!"

It will summon their lawyers and they will drag you to court through your bathroom mirror for violating copyright.

[-] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 27 points 5 months ago

Nintendo have permanently lost a customer in me because of their recent behaviour.

[-] Daxtron2@startrek.website 9 points 5 months ago

Their games have been easily pirated for a while anyways

[-] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago

Honestly, unless you're a young teen or schoolkid, they don't put out much content worth it anyway. Unless you consider endless variations on Mario innovative.

[-] VaultBoyNewVegas@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

I might get a switch 2 only after it's hackable. I thought of doing it with the switch but it seemed too complex for me. At this point I'm really fed up with Nintendo's anti consumer bs. And I'm not just referring to the copyright takedowns and closure yuzu but things like the Mario all stars collection which they then created artificial scarcity around and the Zelda anniversary where they release a HD remaster of skyward sword which is seen as the weakest of the series. I do enjoy the odd Nintendo game but I've had my switch since the year after it came out and I've only beaten 4-5 games on it and I've only 10-20 at most on it and those are mostly indies.

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[-] BioDriver@beehaw.org 26 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Nintendo 🤝 Disney

No fun allowed

[-] maxenmajs@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago

"you're appreciating our games wrong"

[-] Delphia@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

As the parent of a small child I wish I could boycott Nintendo.

[-] drspod@lemmy.ml 11 points 5 months ago

You could introduce your child to emulation :)

[-] Delphia@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Another year or two...

Problem is that Nintendo for all their faults still make GREAT games for kids. And if adult pc gamers think they have it bad they should have a look at the predatory shitshow that is tablet games for the 5 and under market... its properly fucking ridiculous. At least Nintendo has the common decency to give me an amazing and full game for its eyewatering prices.

[-] Wilker 1 points 5 months ago

the indie space still has a ton of stuff. you lose the benefit of always having accessibility features and easy ui navigation depending on the game (although a ton of indie games have better modding and accessibility support than a lot of high budget games as of recently, just in case they come to be interested), but you still get to see a ton of different stuff.

  • Celeste
  • OneShot
  • Rythm Doctor
  • Terraria (has android ver.)
  • A Dance Of Fire And Ice (has android ver.)
  • MiniMetro (has android ver.)
  • ShatteredPixelDungeon (has android ver.)
  • StuntRally
  • Mindustry (has android ver.)
  • HyperRogue (has android ver.)
  • SuperMeatBoy
  • Don't Starve
  • Undertale/Deltarune (have unofficial android ver.)
  • Sky Rogue
  • SuperTuxKart (has android ver.)

most of these without coming close to Nintendo's approach to fan works, so i'd say you're not going to lose much if you know the right places.

if you want games for Android, Mitch is a third-party access to itch.io, a game store where you can by the game and get the game straight into a zip file or what-have-you. no DRM, no questions asked. about half the games i mentioned are in there without the predatory behavior most of the time.

[-] tkc@feddit.uk 4 points 5 months ago

How many of those games are suitable for kids 5 and under really..?

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[-] giuseppe@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago
[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago

Well it's time for the broken clock to be right for once. Gmod is not a safe place for kids and it absolutely should not have kids content on it.

[-] Flyswat@lemmy.ml 14 points 5 months ago

Fixed:

Gmod is not a safe place for kids and it absolutely should not have kids ~~content~~ on it.

[-] Halosheep@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

Why shouldn't children use gmod? Are adults not allowed to enjoy Nintendo?

Your opinions are weird.

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