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submitted 6 months ago by Alsephina@lemmy.ml to c/worldnews@lemmy.ml

The Food and Drug Administration said Tuesday that fragments of the bird flu virus had been detected in some samples of pasteurized milk in the U.S. While the agency maintains that the milk is safe to drink, it notes that it is still waiting on the results of studies to confirm this.

The findings come less than a month after an outbreak of the H5N1 strain of bird flu was found, for the first time, in herds of dairy cows in several states. It has since been detected in herds in eight states. ⠀

The FDA is specifically testing whether pasteurization inactivates bird flu in cow milk. The findings will be available in the “next few days to weeks,” it said. ⠀

Still, the virus remains a cause of concern among health officials, given its particularly high mortality rate of around 50%. Bird flu doesn’t spread easily from person to person, but there’s worry that it could mutate as it spreads among cows to a version that spreads more easily among people. So far, there’s no evidence indicating that has happened, according to the CDC.

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[-] Treczoks@kbin.social 75 points 6 months ago

There is a very big difference between the headline of "Bird flu virus found in pasteurized milk" and the real message "fragments of the bird flu virus had been detected in some samples of pasteurized milk in the U.S.". Turning potential health hazards and threats into harmless particles is the very job of pasteurizing. That is excactly why we pasteurize milk.

Heck, the virus particles could even evoke immune reactions, thus vaccinating us in a natural way. Just by drinking milk.

[-] bushparty@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 months ago

Lol. Milk = vaccine is a new one! I admire your imagination!

[-] MunkyNutts@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Not too far fetched. Many vaccines are made with surface proteins from viruses that can be recognized by the immune system. But my guess is going through the pasteurization most proteins would be denatured and not in the functional form.

https://www.chop.edu/centers-programs/vaccine-education-center/making-vaccines/how-are-vaccines-made

[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 months ago

Do you want the anti-vax crowd to boycott milk?

[-] itsonlygeorge@reddthat.com 15 points 6 months ago

And cheese. And all dairy products. And eggs. Etc.

[-] pepperonisalami@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago

At that point just a tad more and they're going vegan because the cows are probably vaccinated, then they cut down their (bp propaganda) carbon footprint in the confusion 😂

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[-] coffeebiscuit@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago

The problem here is that the virus jumped species. So don’t suck on them cow tities.

The pasteurized milk isn’t a problem.

[-] Omega_Haxors@lemmy.ml 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Life advice we all learned from COVID: When a US agency tells you something looks bad but is perfectly safe, it's definitely not safe.

[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 16 points 6 months ago
[-] yumpsuit@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

:heavy respirator breathing:

[-] Zoldyck@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

One of the many reasons people should go vegan. Cows milk is for baby cows. Are you a baby cow? No? Well, stop behaving like one.

Edit: getting downvoted by animal abusers. Well, at least it's starting to feel more like reddit here. I'll see that as a win.

[-] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 17 points 6 months ago

How do you find the vegan?

[-] Zoldyck@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

By looking for logically sound and ethical comments?

[-] weariedfae@lemmy.world 21 points 6 months ago

Gender-neutral dude, you have got to learn not to fall for these traps and not present yourself as the "angry vegan" in the world. Nobody likes a militant of anything and no one will listen to a snarky message.

I understand you're passionate, and you are free to educate people on your beliefs if organically prompted in conversation, but you need to de-escalate the judgment and harshness to be taken seriously.

If you're not a troll, ai, or a Russian bot, please take this comment with gentle kindness.

[-] DeadPand@midwest.social 8 points 6 months ago

Their message was hardly “angry vegan” 🤣 i think some defensive overreacting is happening

[-] weariedfae@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

Are you a baby cow? No? Well, stop behaving like one.

To someone drinking milk comes off pretty aggressive.

[-] bushparty@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 months ago

We're literally the only species to drink another species milk. And you think the person criticizing your action is aggressive? I get you have a victim complex but seriously, are you a baby cow? Because if that comes off as aggressive, you may need to take a break from the internet for a while.

[-] protist@mander.xyz 10 points 6 months ago

We're literally the only species to drink another species milk

And we've been doing it so long that it affected human evolution, allowing many of us to digest lactose into adulthood.

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[-] Zoldyck@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Exactly. People instantly lose half of their intellect when you confront them with their diet based on systematic abuse and murder. Pretty sad actually.

[-] Zoldyck@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

I'm not even angry, lol. If you think this is angry, you haven't experienced anything. Gender-neutral dude? Because I'm vegan you assume I'm a "Gender-neutral dude"? Damn lol. If I'm not a troll or Russian bot? Lmao. You have a lot to learn about life and yourself. Good luck.

People who continue consuming animal products need to face the reality that they are a huge part of many different global problems - on top of the fact you're complicit in the murder and systematic abuse of many millions of innocent animals every year.

[-] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 12 points 6 months ago

Gender neutral dude is an inclusive to all greeting without assuming your gender.

You are getting really butthurt about the most lighthearted vegan joke ever.

I have respect for y’all, you’re doing what you think is right, and that is admirable.

However, it’s a joke, not a dick, you don’t have to take it so hard.

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[-] bushparty@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago

Civility has its place. Expecting civility when faced with the lack of it? I get taking the high road but now you're talking down to vegans? Lol. Must be nice up on your high horse with all the rules and regulations to abide by! Angry Vegan tropes need to stop and it's not up to the vegans. Lol. It's almost like it's a silly, purposefully played up caricature. You don't know better, people need to learn and it's not always with kid gloves. Grow up and have a discussion. Lol

[-] bushparty@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Find the one who is constantly critical, not just of tech bros? Lol. I think people have forgotten how to be critical of their actions and then judge those with a healthy dose of it. It's up to the individual but comments like these divide more than help. Maybe read a book or try to not be as antagonistic online. Start with just 1 day!

[-] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 8 points 6 months ago

Nah, I read plenty. Ain’t nobody what knows the cow like the butcher, and all that.

I hunt and grow as much of my food as possible, so I avoid factory farmed meat whenever possible.

I’m not perfect, but I am better than I used to be, so I’m cool with it

[-] bushparty@sh.itjust.works 5 points 6 months ago

That is absolutely better than most. Factory farming is abhorrent and I grow lots of my food too! Hunting is definitely better but meat can still have an effect on health. Worth investigating but it's a personal choice ultimately. But to each their own and within their own limit. Getting better is the goal, if more people took small steps there would be less suffering in the world. I get vegans can sometimes be angry but there are also some who recognize the efforts of individuals.

[-] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 4 points 6 months ago

Also, that’s like the ketchup on white bread of vegan jokes

[-] bushparty@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago

And knock knock jokes are typically not that funny once you pass a certain age. Lol. I get that it's a joke, and have (spoiler) even heard it before! It shows more about the person making the joke I think. Maybe reach a little higher, use those tippy toes!

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[-] UNY0N@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Non-vegans are just sick of vocal vegans turning every conversation into a pro-vegan preach-fest. Factory farming is deplorable, but it's not just a black & white issue.

[-] DeadPand@midwest.social 4 points 6 months ago

Ya I’m sorry but that wasn’t a preach fest 🤣

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[-] Zoldyck@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

You're free to support animal genocide. Just don't pretend you're a good person if you do.

[-] cAUzapNEAGLb@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Plants and fungi are alive too.

The only way to stop killing, is to stop living.

The solution is to be mindful of our food, to respect it's life, be thankful in its death.

What I eat, I sacrifice to me, and it lives on through me.

[-] Zoldyck@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

If you respect animals, you wouldn't abuse and murder them just to satisfy your needs. Especially when you can satisfy those needs in harmless ways.

And it's not about being alive or not. Bacteria are alive as well. It's about sentient live. Animals that can feel, think, etc.

[-] cAUzapNEAGLb@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

Plants respond and react stressfully to being cut and chewed and digested.

To ignore this is just as bad as ignoring the plight of animals.

You don't have to be thankful for the food that you eat and sacrifice for your life, but I will. If you are vegan then you are already aware of some of this plight of life, especially the cruelty of factory farm animals, but I ask you to expand your mind to the plight of all living things.

I know that when I thank my food, especially fresh plants, that I can feel a warmth of gratefulness radiate from my stomach. I recommend you try it with your next salad and when you are at your garden.

I want my animals, plants, fungi, bacteria, and all life that I interact with to live happy and fulfilling lives.

The ones I eat to continue my happy and fulfilling life I am especially grateful for.

It will be a constant struggle to ensure my food and all life I interact with is happy and fulfilled, and to reflect deeply on what I can change and improve when it is not.

Humans are uniquely capable to manage and ensure quality of life for ecosystems . The water, the soil, the air, the plants, the fungi, the animals. We can choose the well trotted path to exploit, or we can choose the harder path to heal and maintain.

My solution is to operate a homestead where I can ensure the food I eat and use have a quality happy fulfilling life, and a simple swift painless transfer of life to me and those I can provide for.

[-] Zoldyck@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

If you want people to listen to you, try copy & pasting something worth reading, is relevant to the subject, not biased, and based on (relevant) facts. Good luck in the future.

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[-] bushparty@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 months ago

Couldn't agree more! Can't believe people ignore everything in their milk. They must really love the puss particles in it! Doesn't seem to bother anyone! Or the 1000s of different cows milks in your single cup! Absolutely disgusting and not to mention countries that drink the most milk have the highest amount of osteopetrosis cases. It's not helping! Drink up, chumps!

[-] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 3 points 6 months ago

You should try raw cows milk, way better.

[-] bushparty@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago

Lol. You should keep trying raw cow's milk! I'm sure it definitely won't have any negative consequences! The only thing stupider than drinking milk and eating dairy is specifically searching out raw milk with even more puss and health risks in it. There's a reason this stuff is illegal in some countries you dolt.

[-] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 4 points 6 months ago

You realize that to buy raw milk you have to find a local farm?

One that isn’t a factory farm, but one where people only have a few animals that they actually take care of.

I’m cool with the extra risk in exchange for better animal welfare.

But, go off, if you want I guess?

[-] Glytch@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Just an FYI so you look slightly less stupid: "Pus" has only one "s".

If you're going to use it as an argument at least learn to spell it.

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[-] Alsephina@lemmy.ml 13 points 6 months ago

Putting this in /c/worldnews is a form of foreshadowing

[-] geogle@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Or fear mongering...call it what you will.

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[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 months ago
[-] Kit 3 points 6 months ago

Well there goes my plans to make alfredo tonight.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 11 points 6 months ago

The pasteurization process destroys the virus, and making the sauce would do the same thing anyway. Just bring it to 150°F if you can.

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