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Gender-neutral dude, you have got to learn not to fall for these traps and not present yourself as the "angry vegan" in the world. Nobody likes a militant of anything and no one will listen to a snarky message.
I understand you're passionate, and you are free to educate people on your beliefs if organically prompted in conversation, but you need to de-escalate the judgment and harshness to be taken seriously.
If you're not a troll, ai, or a Russian bot, please take this comment with gentle kindness.
Their message was hardly “angry vegan” 🤣 i think some defensive overreacting is happening
To someone drinking milk comes off pretty aggressive.
We're literally the only species to drink another species milk. And you think the person criticizing your action is aggressive? I get you have a victim complex but seriously, are you a baby cow? Because if that comes off as aggressive, you may need to take a break from the internet for a while.
And we've been doing it so long that it affected human evolution, allowing many of us to digest lactose into adulthood.
Then why is 80% of China lactose intolerant? It's a very North America consumption habit because of North American industry. Milk doesn't make strong bones, they've been lying to you.
I'm talking about the evolution of lactase persistence in humans among civilizations that were heavily dependent on pastoralism thousands, even tens of thousands of years ago. This has nothing to do with North America, because they did not have cows or evolve with cows. Lactase persistence is most pervasive among the people of Northern Europe, West Africa, Southwest Asia, and the Arabian Peninsula.
That's a fair angle! I would urge you to consider that the existence of lactase in humans should not dictate our eating habits today. Especially with more current, direct examples and studies of dairy's impact on climate change, health, and chronic illness. Maybe we should look at today's evidence instead of "we've done it for a while now". We can change our habits, I believe in you!
Occasionally drinking high quality milk is not related to any negative health impacts (among those with lactase persistence) so hard disagree there. It's a nutritionally dense food with a good mix of fat, protein, sugar, and bioavailabile calcium. There are clearly severe issues with the dairy industry, which is why I'm buying the local stuff that's almost twice as expensive and where they treat their cows well.
Modern factory farming (of plants) comes with tons of problems too, related to climate change, pesticide and herbice use, fertilizer runoff, habitat destruction, and more. That's not a reason to stop eating plants.
Interesting take. As if dairy cows don't then go to slaughter to become meat. You're feeding the problem while ignoring the end of the production line that you have a hand in upholding. Occasional anything is not the problem. But when milk is in chips, crackers, cereals, baked goods, etc. we're getting too much of it. There's a difference between having a single glass of milk and mass overconsumption, since we don't solely get dairy from occasional milk, cheese, cream, etc. This is where the issues come in. The dairy industry is an issue, dairy itself is an issue, the pervasiveness of dairy in the food system is a problem, and you ignoring your part in climate change and factory farming by supporting the dairy-to-meat pipeline (not to mention disingenuously equating vegetable farming with animal agriculture) is an issue. I won't be responding again but enjoy your milk! Your hormones, heart, and bones won't!
You sound like you're carrying a lot of anger
You poor, poor soul, thinking this is aggressive.
Exactly. People instantly lose half of their intellect when you confront them with their diet based on systematic abuse and murder. Pretty sad actually.
I'm not even angry, lol. If you think this is angry, you haven't experienced anything. Gender-neutral dude? Because I'm vegan you assume I'm a "Gender-neutral dude"? Damn lol. If I'm not a troll or Russian bot? Lmao. You have a lot to learn about life and yourself. Good luck.
People who continue consuming animal products need to face the reality that they are a huge part of many different global problems - on top of the fact you're complicit in the murder and systematic abuse of many millions of innocent animals every year.
Gender neutral dude is an inclusive to all greeting without assuming your gender.
You are getting really butthurt about the most lighthearted vegan joke ever.
I have respect for y’all, you’re doing what you think is right, and that is admirable.
However, it’s a joke, not a dick, you don’t have to take it so hard.
You sound like you make young women and girls uncomfortable and have for years.
Maybe, sucks for them I guess
You're the only one here getting butthurt.
If you say so
Civility has its place. Expecting civility when faced with the lack of it? I get taking the high road but now you're talking down to vegans? Lol. Must be nice up on your high horse with all the rules and regulations to abide by! Angry Vegan tropes need to stop and it's not up to the vegans. Lol. It's almost like it's a silly, purposefully played up caricature. You don't know better, people need to learn and it's not always with kid gloves. Grow up and have a discussion. Lol
Find the one who is constantly critical, not just of tech bros? Lol. I think people have forgotten how to be critical of their actions and then judge those with a healthy dose of it. It's up to the individual but comments like these divide more than help. Maybe read a book or try to not be as antagonistic online. Start with just 1 day!
Nah, I read plenty. Ain’t nobody what knows the cow like the butcher, and all that.
I hunt and grow as much of my food as possible, so I avoid factory farmed meat whenever possible.
I’m not perfect, but I am better than I used to be, so I’m cool with it
That is absolutely better than most. Factory farming is abhorrent and I grow lots of my food too! Hunting is definitely better but meat can still have an effect on health. Worth investigating but it's a personal choice ultimately. But to each their own and within their own limit. Getting better is the goal, if more people took small steps there would be less suffering in the world. I get vegans can sometimes be angry but there are also some who recognize the efforts of individuals.
Also, that’s like the ketchup on white bread of vegan jokes
And knock knock jokes are typically not that funny once you pass a certain age. Lol. I get that it's a joke, and have (spoiler) even heard it before! It shows more about the person making the joke I think. Maybe reach a little higher, use those tippy toes!
Nah, not worth the time