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[-] GardenVarietyAnxiety@lemmy.world 252 points 11 months ago

This is what we get for conflating a persons talent and ability with their net worth

[-] Clent@lemmy.world 126 points 11 months ago

His only talent is convincing the wealthy to invest in his schemes. I don't understand how he does it, hearing him speak is painful.

He got lucky with Tesla becoming a meme stock.

SpaceX is being run by a competent engineer while its competitor, Blue Origin is being run by a megalomaniac. This is possibly Musks only competent move in business.

The rest of his ventures have been failures. To any one not blinded by greed, it's clear he long ago peaked. He's playing a shell game now but people will happily invest hoping luck will strike again.

[-] seaQueue@lemmy.world 42 points 11 months ago

His only talent is convincing the wealthy to invest in his schemes. I don't understand how he does it, hearing him speak is painful.

That's not fair, he's also really good at making promises to the public to secure incentives and public funding and then fucking everyone over

[-] Clent@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

The real trick there is how he didn't get sued.

The SEC has held him more accountable than the share holders

[-] spacesatan@lemm.ee 17 points 11 months ago

To his credit SpaceX was at least a correct recognition that the dominant space launch companies were just a cartel milking federal funding for as much as possible. That sector is so stagnant that ULA still hasn't blinked at the massive success of first stage reusability.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago

When you're a government agency, you have to play things super safe. When you're an independent company, you can do whatever you want. And if you fail, no one cares. If the government agency fails, it's hell to pay.

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[-] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 10 points 11 months ago

Man, I wish I was a deluded narcissist. Life sounds pretty good for them.

[-] chris@l.roofo.cc 32 points 11 months ago

Only if you have enough starting capital to skirt through life without a worry.

[-] Mongostein@lemmy.ca 21 points 11 months ago

Right right. OK let me amend: I wish I was a deluded narcissist born with a silver spoon in my mouth.

[-] 5too@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I'd be happy with just the silver spoon, myself.

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[-] Buffalox@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

You are saying you wish you had a mental illness. No it's not actually fun to be a narcissist, they are emotionally broken and can't have normal relationships. This is true for both Musk and Trump, Trump has been married 3 times, and none appear to have any actual love. Another proof is when he learned he won the presidency in 2016. There was no joy, because nothing has value to him, and all is an act for appearance to satisfy his narcissism. It's an empty life where you can trust no one, because you think they are as untrustworthy as yourself. You think no body loves you, because you are incapable of love yourself, and all you do is to try to keep up appearances. Even when they succeed and have everything, they really have nothing.

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[-] jabjoe@feddit.uk 109 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)
[-] ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.ml 26 points 11 months ago

Yeah that's what I was thinking, never heard it called pigeon management before

[-] jabjoe@feddit.uk 38 points 11 months ago

Maybe they mean pigeon to make it sound like he isn't able to be a seagull manager. Like he's trying to be a seagull manager, but only managed pigeon manager. A quiet insult.

[-] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 15 points 11 months ago

Maybe all Tesla managers are as dumb as Musk himself and they did mean Pigeon but in an unironic way.

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Seems more like he's combining it with a quote:

"Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are, the bird is going to shit on the board and strut around like it won anyways."

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[-] Cheems@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

It's not pigeon management unless it's from the city region of new york

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[-] gasgiant@lemmy.ml 90 points 11 months ago

Anyone remember when he spent all his time talking about colonising mars? That was his big thing and the future. Whatever happened to that?

Then spacex got government funding. Now AI is the big thing.

I've still yet to see any of his great visions he's actually delivered on.

[-] bitwaba@lemmy.world 71 points 11 months ago

Whatever happened to that?

He took all the money he was going to use to do that, put it in a duffelbag with X written on the side, and burned it.

[-] AdamEatsAss@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago

Isn't something like that why Elon got in trouble with the Tesla board? Something about using Tesla as a bank to fund space x.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Notice he has never actually volunteered to go up in a SpaceX rocket. I don't think he'll be going to Mars.

[-] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 11 points 11 months ago

Tis a shame, Musk would be perfect to colonize Mars. Send him there. But forget to send women.

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[-] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 79 points 11 months ago

I don't think pigeons deserve that sort of badmouthing.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 72 points 11 months ago

I'm picturing him walking into Tesla's offices, going over to the engineers, saying, "make the horn make a fart noise," and leaving, thinking he's brilliant.

[-] skozzii@lemmy.ca 15 points 11 months ago

"The bear is sticky with honey"

My God he's brilliant....

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[-] WaxiestSteam69@lemmy.world 51 points 11 months ago

I've never heard of pigeon management but I have heard something similar described as playing chess with a pigeon as someone who "knocks all the pieces over, shits on the board then struts aroind like they've won".

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[-] tsonfeir@lemm.ee 50 points 11 months ago

That’s an insult to pigeons.

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[-] msmc101 49 points 11 months ago
[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 39 points 11 months ago

Can't we all agree to just ignore him? Like stop posting about him and quit Twitter? He thrives off negative attention.

[-] lemmyreader@lemmy.ml 23 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Problem is that lots of people do not leave Tw(X)tter and are not intending to do so :( And some are on Mastodon sort of pretending to have left the Pigeon sh*t CEO product, but still posting mostly screenshots from the old site. Good thing is that some are pretty clear about having left and encouraging others to follow like here : https://mastodon.social/@dangillmor ->

Journalists, please leave Twitter and join the fediverse. ~~Here's how to get started:~~

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[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago

Soooo... just a bog-standard CEO, then.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago

As much as I hate them, I would wager that the majority of CEOs are more educated, smarter and have a better understanding of their business than Elon "Failed Upward" Musk.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

CEOs are more educated, smarter and have a better understanding of their business

You haven't met that many of them, have you?

I have - the difference between the ones I met and the likes of Elon is that none of the ones I met had any interest in being celebrities. That's the only difference - their institutionalized incompetence was the exact same.

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[-] Grass@sh.itjust.works 25 points 11 months ago

There's a picture this makes me think of where a bunch of birds are sitting on a tree in typical pyramid hierarchy diagram positions, and each level of birds starting from the second is covered in more shit than the previous.

[-] Buttons@programming.dev 12 points 11 months ago

The true trickle down

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[-] Zealousideal_Fox900@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago

As a pigeon enjoyer, offence taken.

[-] asret@lemmy.zip 18 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I've always heard them described as seagull managers. Screams loudly, shits everywhere, leaves.

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[-] Veedem@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago

We called this the “swoop and poop” in a previous job of mine. Definitely not something encouraged or enjoyed.

[-] BeigeForce@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

The ol’ Swoop-n-Poop as an ex (awesome) boss used to call it.

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[-] Tebbie@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

I've been under leaders like this. Definitely not the best ones.

[-] olutukko@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

hey that's insulting. against pigeons. they can at least fly without exploding (space x doesnt really), navigate to places without risking themselves (unlike telsa autopilot) and they don't ruin every corporation they own. fuck musk though

[-] db2@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Sounds about right for him, brain the size of a pigeon too.

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[-] Shou@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

They do say owners pick pets most similar to them.

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