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submitted 1 year ago by VLDK@lemmy.world to c/linux@lemmy.ml

I've been using fedora but I would like to try something new and I think about arch linux but I don’t know if it’s good for gaming. What do you think?

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[-] Secret300@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 year ago

yeah it's fine

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[-] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 35 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Every distro is going to be good for gaming. Arch is going to be about equal to Fedora when it comes to gaming (both are good).

SteamOS is based on Arch, for instance.

You're not really going to see a difference when it comes to compatibility or performance, and even if you did, that's usually just a configuration issue (like setting a large enough VM heap size, which distros are starting to do by default anyway).

[-] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 5 points 1 year ago

SteamOS is based on Arch, for instance.

Heavily tweaked and customized by Valve... you're not going to get the same experience on vanilla Arch.

[-] cerement@slrpnk.net 33 points 1 year ago

well … SteamOS is based on Arch …

[-] dino@discuss.tchncs.de 20 points 1 year ago

Its the best distro for gaming. Valve is using it, rolling distro.

[-] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 year ago

I don't think Valve is rolling it though, I'm pretty sure they do feature freezes for stability.

[-] BuckWylde@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

I use arch for gaming btw.

[-] eya@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 year ago

Distro doesn't really matter when it comes to gaming.

[-] LeFantome@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago

Alpine has enters the chat

[-] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

You're going to struggle a bit on Debian. I know you can install backports and flatpaks but it's not 100% the same as native recent packages.

[-] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago

It's good. The steam deck's version of steamOS is arch based, so that should tell you a lot about its capabilities.

I'd recommend choosing an Arch-based distro like Endeavour or Garuda so you don't have to go through the rigmarole of installing vanilla Arch.

[-] Reawake9179@lemmy.kde.social 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

While SteamOS is Arch based, i don't think they really use it the Arch way. It's run as an image based immutable OS, so they control the packages and not run at the bleeding edge.

You might run into problems more likely than SteamOS will.

Although i didnt't have problems gaming on Arch, it's not the same

[-] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 4 points 1 year ago

I think they confirmed in an interview at one point that they don't roll with it. They take the binaries they need from it, test it and freeze it. Initially they were using Debian but ended up needing more recent package versions and apparently Arch binaries in core and extra were more suitable to their purposes than Debian testing.

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[-] UmbraTemporis@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago

Arch installs aren't too bad, it's the post-install setup that'll get you though since a fresh install is guaranteed to detonate if you don't disarm it.

It doesn't even have to be complex anymore thanks to archinstall.

[-] FalseMyrmidon@kbin.run 2 points 1 year ago

Disarm? I don't remember having to do anything like that...

[-] UmbraTemporis@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 year ago
[-] FalseMyrmidon@kbin.run 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Arch-install had me create a user iirc. Most of the rest of that page was done by installing the KDE meta package for me.

A lot of the things on that page are FYIs, not things you need to do. I still don't know what you mean by detonate or disarm .

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[-] northmaple1984@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Arch documentation is great, if you're only doing it once it shouldn't really be a concern.

[-] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 1 points 1 year ago

How about doing it never.

I'll never understand why some people think that the arch install is such a transcendental event that you absolutely must subject yourself to.

And even if it were, sometimes you just want to install Linux not have a life-changing experience.

[-] DriftinGrifter 2 points 1 year ago

people using a system should understand how it works and theretically every linux user should do lfs atleast once

[-] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 3 points 1 year ago

Neither installing Arch nor doing LFS will teach you how Linux works. They're at least one or two steps removed from the system's inner workings.

Secondly, that's way too high a bar.

[-] qpsLCV5@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

it definitely taught me about how linux works, at least the parts that are relevant for most users. starting from a clean install without any kind of gui (or common networking tools) really made me understand all the building blocks modern desktop linux uses. sure, installing a full blown desktop environment skips most things, but going with just a window manager and adding required features package by package really does help with understanding, and if a problem does pop up later you'll know exactly where to look, instead of having to search super generic terms.

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[-] BCsven@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Bazzite, specifically crafted for gaming and isos tailored to types of hardward. https://bazzite.gg/

[-] Banthex@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Omg this is something i have to try!!! I switched to Fedora Silverblue for Laptop and this ostree Thing is insane! Thanks!

[-] chromolium_falcon@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

This looks really awesome. Probably going to have to install this a few places soon.

[-] Epzillon@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

I've been using Nobara for some time and it's amazing. Nice installer and gets all drivers and fixed applied from the get go. Also it is maintained by GloriousEggroll himself.

[-] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Echo nobara.

Been the most stable nvidia experience for my odd setup.

Able to handle an ultrawide and normal monitor 1440 at different hz and one is display port other is hdmi.

Would run into the occasional hickup with manjaro. Been all good on nobara

[-] Gingernate@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

Fedora > arch confirmed

[-] Veraxis@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Arch gamer here. I can confirm that it works well.

[-] UnRelatedBurner@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

hello, hi, do you play cs2? If yes, does fullscreen work for you?

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[-] potentiallynotfelix@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago

any distro can do anything another can, itll be fine for gaming and has a massive community

[-] heschlie@lemmy.schlunker.com 5 points 1 year ago

As others have said I doubt you will see a difference but I can attest to arch working just fine for gaming. Between steam and Lutris I haven't run into any real issues.

So if you're wanting to try arch go for it with confidence that your gaming experience likely won't be impacted.

[-] DrDominate@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

For the love of Tux, whatever you do install Arch on the btrfs file system so you can time shift back whenever arch decides to try and ruin your day on an update.

[-] Wooki@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Nix is just as configurable and you will have far less problems

[-] Morphit@feddit.uk 5 points 1 year ago
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[-] Aties@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

After learning about nix, I'm surprised steamos isn't built on it

[-] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 2 points 1 year ago

There's a limit to how much you want to tinker with the OS when customizing it.

Also, Arch has about 10k binary packages in core, extra and multilib.

[-] Atemu@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

Steam is its own package manager and native games usually assume that an FHS-conformant is present. Neither of those mesh well with Nix notoriously has nothing comparable to an FHS and usually requires everything to be defined in its terms.

[-] cyclohexane@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Arch works well for gaming. However, depending on what you're doing, you should keep this in mind:

  • on any distro, updates may break things or change the behavior of apps. The difference in arch is that youll update no less than weekly on average, maybe biweekly at worst. This would matter more if you have a complex setup. If you're just using steam, I wouldn't worry
  • arch only uses the latest versions of software. If you ever install something from outside the arch repos, you have to make sure it is compatible with recent versions. Sometimes it may not be.
[-] cetvrti_magi@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I use EndeavourOS (which is almost the same as Arch) for gaming and it works great.

[-] Vilian@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

nah you not gonna gain more fps or something

[-] Enoril@jlai.lu 4 points 1 year ago

except if you compare it with windows 11.

My Win11 was so bad (compared to Win10) than I’ve switched to ArchLinux. I’ve won around 10~20fps without doing anything particular (and also gain some better loading time as the nvme sequential access performance was much much better under linux).

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[-] Nisaea@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

Im on EndeavourOS like a lot of other folks here, which is basically Arch with an awesome installer, a handful of convenient extra tools, a sensible default confuguration and a fancy theme. It's been awesome so far, hell I've just been able to install and run an EA game from steam with minimal fuss yesterday, just the help of lutris to install EA Origin to authenticate. Shit just works.

That being said, Arch can occasionally blow up at your face for no fault of your own and it's a very different environment from fedora (love fedora btw), so there's a bit of a learning curve that you're gonna have to accept to climb if you want to maintain your system.

[-] Static_Rocket@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

It's fine. Only issues I've had is occasionally some modifications to glibc will break anticheat but that's only happened to me twice in the past 8 years.

[-] desentizised@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I can't chime in on that specific angle but on exactly the opposite. I'd call myself an Arch guy, or Manjaro and Endeavour more specifically. But recently I started hearing more and more about Nobara, I own a Steam Deck and use GE Proton on there which is from the same guy so I said I wana try Nobara and I immediately felt at home. I'm not a big KDE fan but really the out of the box Nobara experience when it comes to gaming needs felt and feels so complete to me I really couldn't complain about a single thing.

It obviously wont replace Arch in my homelab but I don't think I'll ever consider anything else besides Nobara for my desktop again. Point being I had next to zero practical Fedora experience up to that point. I tried Garuda before which is also Arch based and supposed to cater to gaming needs but with that direct comparison I now feel like Nobara is the only distro that truly gets gaming. It's SteamOS for the KBM based Desktop.

[-] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

They can all be good for gaming. The distro doesn't matter. Use what you find efficient, pretty, customized to your liking. They can all game. Don't install Popos because it's gaming oriented you can game on vanilla arch if you wanted to or debian. Arch won't matter much unless you have the newest hardware.

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[-] systemshock@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

3 years (or is it 4? What is time?) on arch exclusively and I do quite a lot of gaming. It's been great. There were a few occasions over the years where something didn't work, while others on ProtonDB had seemingly flawless experiences, but it was always just a few minor tweaks. Much better experience than what I had on Manjaro prior to switching. Also, this is all on Wayland (sway) and even with that, it's been great. BTW.

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