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I swear to god, more and more I keep having 'clean' versions play on Spotify, YouTube Music, Deezer - despite the song being marked as 'Explicit'.

And no, I definitely do not have the setting checked for only playing clean versions.

It's not just me - is it?

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[-] captainnapalm83@lemmy.ca 83 points 7 months ago

Not sure if it's just you, but we were at an event last night and the DJ was playing "Play that funky music" by Wild Cherry and it was censored during the chorus to remove "white boy" and "whitey"...

[-] weariedfae@lemmy.world 51 points 7 months ago
[-] Nemo@midwest.social 10 points 7 months ago
[-] snooggums@midwest.social 29 points 7 months ago

There is zero chance any white person has ever complained about that song, but I can see some kind of overzealous cenoring busybody treating anything that could possibly be misconstrued as racist censoring it.

It could also be AI automated filtering.

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[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 64 points 7 months ago

Enshittification intensifies. I feel like I am traveling back in time. Recently I started ripping music again because of streaming service enshittification, and just two weeks ago I started burning CDs again because an update was pushed to my phone that broke compatibility with my car's Bluetooth. Last time it took two months for them to hotfix it.

[-] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago

No YouTube is now censoring things that they find profane. I was watching one of my favorite channels and host was discussing the HBO Doc on Nickelodeon and she wasn't being vulger but everytime she said the words sexaul assault they would cut it. Pissed me off. I am fucking adult and don't want YouTube deciding what words I am allowed to hear.

Shit getting worse like fucking 1984 when exactly are we going rise up and demand better?

[-] folkrav@lemmy.ca 10 points 7 months ago

1984 supposes it’s coming from big government and social structures. Seems like a lot of people just aren’t watching what big corporations are doing cause it’s getting at least just as creepy…

[-] KillingAndKindess 4 points 7 months ago

Exactly the moment when a person(s) of strong character evident primarily through the way they conduct themselves. No amount of documentation of previous good character can hold up against someone who doesn't care about it on the first place.

They need be only 2 things: Humble, and undeniably good character. When someone meets them, the only people who won't think they're worth following will be people who don't have good intents, and even they will internally admit and know who they've met.

I think the imaginary power couple of Keanu Reeves and Julie D'Aubigny

[-] mPony@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

when exactly are we going rise up and demand better

That would be when consumers decide to come together and operate collectively in their own best interests against immense multinational corporations.
Soooooooooo, possibly quite a while.

[-] pokemaster787@ani.social 3 points 7 months ago

To be fair, in that specific case it is almost certainly not YouTube directly censoring the phrase. They aren't known to do any kind of editing like that on uploaded videos.

What is happening is the person that uploaded that video censored themselves....because YouTube's policy around monetization. They'll demonetize videos with certain no-no words. Part of that is YouTube and part of that is advertisers demanding their ads not be placed on content that they find objectionable.

Indirectly, YouTube and advertisers are censoring our content. A lot of it is also TikTok, which will ban you for no-no words. This seeps over into YouTube where something that might be fine on YouTube but is banned on TikTok gets censored anyway in case it gets clipped for TikTok.

Genuinely the power TikTok and it's advertisers have over how we communicate is pretty scary. Imagine how often you hear "unalive" instead of "suicide" these days. "Pdf" (or others) instead of "pedophile." The list goes on.

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[-] TK420@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

A few years ago I was in a car with coworkers and the music was weird…..turns out Amazon was playing all covers. Driver said it was a regular Amazon stream. I was never more happy to have my Plex server and have been increasing my CD purchases from eBay.

PSA: don’t forget to wash your “new to you” CDs, they rip much better. Just need a little hand soap and water and boom, clean ass discs ready to go.

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 9 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

PSA: don’t forget to wash your “new to you” CDs, they rip much better. Just need a little hand soap and water and boom, clean ass discs ready to go.

Gen-X here:

[-] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

different albums release different versions of songs. found this with Teenage Dirtbag. legit album version was fine. spotify isn't censoring on the fly. lots of albums, like from xibit or busta rhymes released clean and explicit versions of the album. depends on artist and label.

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 3 points 7 months ago

The problem I am finding is that explicit versions I have added to my playlist are replaced with clean versions. Not always, but sometimes.

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[-] sir_pronoun@lemmy.world 40 points 7 months ago

Not just you. It fucking sucks. Patti Smiths Song "Rock n Roll removed" is gone from Spotify too, for example.

[-] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 15 points 7 months ago

Why did you write removed rather than whatever word it actually was?

[-] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Some apps or instances auto censor some words, like the N word in the song there, or retard is another, it’s other use is using a retarder to slow a chemical reaction.

[-] Evil_incarnate@lemm.ee 39 points 7 months ago

I got banned on Facebook for saying "fatty acids" because "fatty" is a bad word.

[-] snooggums@midwest.social 8 points 7 months ago

This sounds so stupid that I believe it could be true.

[-] LostXOR@fedia.io 5 points 7 months ago

Don't fat-shame the acids!

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[-] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 13 points 7 months ago

Retardation is also something to do with maths.

[-] OldManBOMBIN@lemmy.world 31 points 7 months ago

Yeah, my retardation kept me from passing it

[-] Twitches@lemm.ee 6 points 7 months ago

😂 Lmao same

[-] brygphilomena@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago

And ignition timing for engines.

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[-] sir_pronoun@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

..jeez, the irony

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[-] laurelraven 35 points 7 months ago

Not just you... I've had both clean and explicit versions playing of the same songs coming up randomly and it's annoying.

I legit want an option to only use the explicit versions, the clean ones never sound good where they clean it up, and sometimes they even use those stupid sound effects that just frankly destroy the song. If the service only has the clean version, I think I'd rather it just not play it at all

[-] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago

I honestly never even knew the cleaned up versions existed before we went on a trip to america and that s all that played on the radio.

[-] aes@programming.dev 28 points 7 months ago

I worked on exactly this for a while, a long, long time ago. It turns out to be an annoyingly difficult bag of problems. The record companies don't really care, they sell (sold, I guess) pieces of plastic. (Idk if they fixed it yet, but the same Turbonegro album kept getting sent with the same scratches, kept getting taken down a while later, for years.) So, good luck trusting them to label anything.

Puritans are so much more aggressive than sane people that making mistakes one way is much more expensive than the other way.

Anyway, we ended up trying to work out which tracks are actually the same song, (Easy for you, harder for friend computer, yes?) and then if one of them is marked explicit, they all are, unless marked "radio edit" or "clean", or whatever. If you think about this for a minute, if one track is labeled "radio edit", maybe the other ones should be marked explicit...

It's a deep rabbit hole, is what I'm saying.

And the people with the pitchforks are never happy.

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 22 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I noticed this last night! Listening to something with a lot of "fucks" in the chorus, the lyrics page still had them in there and the song itself had the explicit marker but every instance of "fuck" was blanked over. It wasn't censored the last time I heard the song on the service and it's the only version I have liked (which is what playlist I was listening to it from).

[-] Risk@feddit.uk 5 points 7 months ago

Oh my God, thank you for the confirmation.

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[-] toxicbubble@lemmy.world 19 points 7 months ago

same with streaming services censoring older shows. it's cable all over again

[-] DdCno1@kbin.social 12 points 7 months ago

I wouldn't be surprised if it's related to many streaming services adding ads even for subscribers. Advertisers are notorious for driving censorship.

[-] folkrav@lemmy.ca 4 points 7 months ago

It’s always advertisers getting frisky.

[-] Risk@feddit.uk 3 points 7 months ago

But I don't understand - it's inconsistent. Some stuff will be censored and others won't be?

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

They apply it piecemeal and charge more for guaranteeing that your ad won’t be put in an un-censored show if that’s a thing that matters to you. Or that it will be put in an un-censored show. Or either. Or both. Or different things for different catalogs that they specify.

They’re selling targeting. They’re just creating another axis to segregate data on that can be charged for in their pricing model.

[-] shani66@ani.social 18 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

While i dont listen to music popular enough to be affected, the world is absolutely slipping back into prude bullshit. I think we let our guard down because the new prudes don't sound like the old ones, instead of using Christianity they use liberalism (as in, tokenizing identities and treating a negative peace as the highest goal possible). It's the exact same minds raised under a different set of morals.

[-] AgentGrimstone@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

I have a 2000s playlist on YouTube. The censoring throws me off and interrupts my vibe every time.

[-] vithigar@lemmy.ca 8 points 7 months ago

I chimed in with a, "haven't you people ever heard of closing the [conspicuous empty beat] damned door?!"

[-] uncreativechap@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

I've only noticed this with one song in my Spotify library, Johnny Cash's "A Boy Named Sue". I saved it years ago and near the end is a line "I'm the son of a bitch that named you Sue". Out of nowhere about a year ago the album version changed to be "I'm the [bleep] that named you Sue". It still shows the full lyrics, it's just the audio that's changed and it drives me up the wall.

[-] bluewing@lemm.ee 5 points 7 months ago

That happens to a lot of songs with a a snippet of "socially" frowned upon lyrics. From a "Boy Named Sue to "My Dingaling" to When You Get a Hair Cut" to "Money for Nothin'". Recording artists often have recorded 2 different versions of some songs - one for people to buy and one that can be played on the radio due to "decency laws" set by the FCC and local ordinances.

It's been that way since the 1930s in the US.

[-] uncreativechap@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago

I'm familiar with the way censored versions of songs work, I'm more miffed that the version I had saved was the explicit version until it randomly got changed to the censored version.

[-] dditty@lemm.ee 13 points 7 months ago

I've noticed this using Spotify. If I manually play an explicit song - either directly or in an album or playlist - I get the uncensored version. If I ask Google Assistant to play the song, I get the censored version.

[-] DdCno1@kbin.social 10 points 7 months ago

One more reason to maintain your own media library instead of relying on streaming services. Every single service can at any point and without notifying the user delete and alter content as well as remove features.

[-] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

The worst example is the clean version of Ace hood's bugatti, you got on an near game trial. Nearly every other word was absent. It was ridiculous.

[-] MossyFeathers@pawb.social 4 points 7 months ago

I haven't noticed this on Qobuz, but Qobuz doesn't have ads either.

[-] bigbadmoose@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Same here. One of the reasons I switched, not to mention how awful Spotify sounds

[-] MrJameGumb@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

It haven't been an issue on Prime Music yet. At least not that I've noticed.

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