No need for regulations, just set a price floor please. Only billionaires allowed.
Don't waste tax money on this. If some rich idiots want to unalive themselves in a can to see some garbage at the bottom of the ocean - let them.
....please leave 'unalive' on places like tik tok.
I was using it satirically and I honestly think that's where this word is going. I find it fascinating though - it's absolutely meaningless but it also sounds safe and incredibly artificial. It's full of these paradoxical features that make this word really fun. I'd invest meme points into it tbh.
It's too late man it's now apart of the modern language. Insert Abe Simpson "I used to be hip.." meme.
It really only is, for the most part, on places like tik tok and youtube where the word 'dead' is banned. And it occasionally slips out into normal society but....just...no.
Contrary to popular belief the word "dead" is not banned on tiktok or youtube. Do people really think that the censor can be tricked by a synonym a 5 yeard old could come up with?
Real argument is to protect people with trauma as seeing "dead" can be a trigger but even then it doesn't make much sense as it's the same word - just spelled differently. The only way this would work if we come up with new word for "death" every few months before our brains re-asocciate the synonyms but that's absurdly impractical and impossible to implement. I do think it's an interesting language phenomena tho and is fun to explore.
We've already wasted money on them.
Who do you think paid the coast guards and navies of the multiple nationals that conducted the deep sea search for Titan?
Hint: Tax payers.
I don't know about the others, but Coast Guard gets paid regardless. These events justify their budget. It wasn't an "extra cost" to the taxpayers.
I'll be honest, I don't think that's a sensible approach. Yes, it's billionaires offing themselves, sure. But regulations are quite important, in particular in sensible and critical areas like this.
If they also protect some billionaires that's an unfortunate side effect, but overall these regulations would be very good to have. The rise of venture capitalist attitude outside of IT is only going to get worse, so the sooner we can establish rules against that the better.
I was this close to agreeing with you and then I remembered there was a kid on that sub, and now I’m thinking this was a really shitty thing to say.
Nah. Let the rich morons off themselves.
I am calling for even fewer regulations. Negative regulations.
Negative regulations
force billionaires on board sketchy-ass subs and send them a few miles down?
I like it.
Musk and Zuck next please.
I am calling for less. No billionaire should be stopped from going on an unregulated submarine.
Let them enjoy the deregulated world they created.
Didn't they ignore a bunch of regulatory bodies by claiming the passengers were experts and not tourists? I think throwing more laws at it won;t do much, unless they close similar loopholes.
I think they ignored standard testing, but this was never made mandatory
To be clear, it wasn’t a “tourist sub”… so maybe the first regulation should be defining exactly what that is,
The CEO was very careful to skirt applicable regulatory laws. He even called his passengers "crew members". In the aviation world, I have some experience harmonizing multiple regulatory authorities. Because of "international waters", there will need to be some agreement and harmonizing of regulations. There's already SOLAS so, I think it can be done.
A “crew member” would be some kind of employee.
Employees don’t pay a company a quarter of a million dollars to do “work” for eight hours. You don’t pay to work, you get payed to work.
Just because you call someone a crew member doesn’t necessarily mean that would hold up in a court of law.
Technically I believe they were classified as employees that "donated" to the company. Nice workaround Stockton! Let's see how that holds up in court with the obvious gross negligence.
I think if they were alive to sue and be sued... He'd be fucked.
Its international waters. What regulatory body is Cameron proposing has jurisdiction to enforce any regulations?
Tickets for the tours aren't sold from international waters, and countries can still sue someone for breaking their laws outside their territories if they want.
Except if X country has restrictions, rich assholes will then register the sub in Y country.
The Titan sub was registered out of Bermuda. The carry boat was registered in Canada, it normally docked in the US.
That's how rich asshole work, they register the boat where ever the fuck they want to.
From the article:
Cameron told the event that the shocking loss of the Titan might force international agencies to craft regulations for passenger vessels.
Presumably he means agencies like the IMO (International Maritime Organization), which has written international laws like the International Convention For The Safety Of Life At Sea.
Such laws are usually enforced by regional agencies of the signatory countries.
Dude. Do you think that "international waters/airspace" means you can just anything? Consider airlines. What happens if you suddenly drop trou and shat in the aisles? You will be restrained and arrested the moment you land. Similarly, people on ships are bound by the laws their ship is flagged with. In addition, insurance companies won't insure your vessel if you decide to not obey any laws. That alone can destroy your business venture.
In the aviation world, an experimental aircraft may not be used for "compensation or hire". The only exception is that a kitplane manufacturer is allowed to give demo flights.
Is that true in every country on the planet? Because I doubt it.
United States Federal Aviation Administration, I believe EASA is similar.
Only the gooberment can protect us from rich people getting killed private subs. Plz take more of my tax dollars.
I for one welcome more of these "catastrophic failures" if it means more billionaires will lose their lives. Worthless sociopathic assholes
They are operating in international waters. Who would oversee these regulations?
There are plenty of mutually agreed upon international regulations that ships, aircraft, etc. all abide by. It’s not rocket science (well there’s that too).
The port from which they launch and the country where the company is registered.
If it's all done incognito and they fuck up then too bad.
The only disaster was that they didn't manage to squeeze a few more billionaires on board.
Ribbit
At this rate, I can see a billionaire stepping on a lego and saying legos need to be regulated.
"And, by the way, watch Avatar: The Way of the Water today on Disney+!"
Stick to making crappy movies you out of touch dinosaur.
James Cameron is a leading expert in undersea exploration. Touch grass you out of touch redditor
He’s extremely knowledgeable about submersibles. He helped design and build the Deepsea Challenger, which he then took to the bottom of Challenger Deep, the deepest known location on the planet. He’s one of two people to have done that.
He has a ton more experience on top of that. I’ll leave it up to you to go learn about it if you can be bothered to do so.
And he’s still an out of touch dinosaur. He can take his sub and shove it.
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