flatpak remote-add flathub-verified --subset=verified https://dl.flathub.org/repo/flathub.flatpakrepo
I love flatpak but if you aren't using the AUR on arch what's the point?!
Wait people donโt just install arch to say that they use it ?
I love Arch but I hate installing and configuring it.
I might have something shocking to tell you. There are distros with good defaults!
Can you recommend a rolling release distro that has good defaults for hyprland or sway?
I can recommend a semi-rolling distro ;D wayblue has some defaults, but I have not tried it. There also is a hardened version of it under the secureblue images. Although I think the maintainer has horrible control issues, I cant deny that the product is near perfect (apart from opinionated Chromium enforcements and some hacky parts like LD_PRELOADing a different allocator) and use the kinoite variant daily.
But that's okay as it's rolling release and unlike other distros you only need to do it exactly once...
I just want new packages and Tumbleweed sucks, and don't even get me started on Fedora and their codec nonsense. Every time I tried Fedora I run into issues. You can't even use their packaged version of VLC cause they don't also package the correct version of ffmpeg. Fedora is a joke. Nobara even worse cause that one is outdated on top of it. Arch is the way and you are all wrong.
Don't you ever talk to me or my wife's distro ever again
Agree on the Fedora problem, but the solution is pretty easy.
# install the RPM packages, your system is auto detected, the packages take care of updating the repos
sudo dnf install https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-$(rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-$(rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm
# enable cisco-openh264 to be sure
sudo dnf config-manager --enable fedora-cisco-openh264
# install ffmpeg with allowerase
sudo dnf install ffmpeg --allowerasing
# or, if you just want videos, without uninstalling anything
sudo dnf install libavcodec-freeworld
Thats basically it. On the Atomic variants, installing libavcodec-freeworld is just as easy, but allowerasing doesnt work so you need to uninstall everything manually to unbreak ffmpeg. Or you just use uBlue where it is already done and default (this will also avoid any rpmfusion incompatibilities to happen on your device and on the server instead)
Yes this is annoying, but you do that once and afterwards have a current release more stable than Arch, and an old-supported release that is even more stable.
but allowerasing doesnt work so you need to uninstall everything manually to unbreak ffmpeg
There we go, that's probably what I should have done. Utterly ridiculous! That's too bad since Kinoite is the best immutable distro out there right now IMHO. (No, I don't count NixOS)
And we can go deeper still, cause I have also tried uBlue! And what do you know, even uBlue sucks. I swear to you I had issues I could not figure out how to solve on every single Fedora 39 thing I tried. Yes, I will admit that a user who is used to the Fedora way will have probably easily solved all those, but not me. And I could say the same about Arch, only on Arch I actually know how to solve my problems. And on Arch people would assume having to fix stuff manually, not on Fedora though. Fedora should be an "it just works" distro like Mint, but it's SO GOD DAMN far from it. Anyways, I honestly believe the entire Fedora eco-system is straight up cursed.
Agree, fedora atomic is the best OS base there is. I am also testing COSMIC which is now under the ublue org.
discussion.fedoraproject.org is there for problems.
I agree that Fedora variants need more tweaking, but processes are so damn slow. For example setting up external repos would very well be possible, but they will add an intransparent "add external repos" page to Kinoite. At least that.
Thank software patents for the codec trouble, not Fedora / Red Hat. They just don't want to get their asses sued for free software
Anyway I can use VLC and ffmpeg just fine with RPMFusion, idk what ur issue is, but judging by that
you are all wrong
i probably just wasted my time on a brainless troll like you.
Ah, a man of culture
What sucks exactly with TW? For me it is Arch in easy mode ๐
Eh, just my personal opinion. I tried it once and didn't like it. But I can admit that is similar to me saying "Gnome sucks". It's obviously a matter of personal opinion.
The Arch repos, being quick, rolling, not restricted legally or being upstream of some corpo distro like Fedora or OpenSUSE etc
Idk ask Steam?
There are people that choose flatpak for some apps and the AUR for other apps I heard from a friend ๐
Meanwhile flatpack: (unverified)
They specifically only added the repo with verified apps
flatpak remote-add flathub-verified --subset=verified https://dl.flathub.org/repo/flathub.flatpakrepo
Flathub doesn't have the apps i need from AUR.
Fair point. But when apps are on Flathub and people say "I dont care I have the AUR" they need to know.
All you need to verify an AUR package is to read the PKGBUILD file, which is something the AUR keeps on encouraging you to do (this assumes that you trust the upstream repo, which is something that even official packagers of most distros do)
Also a lot of flatpak packages aren't sand boxed enough to be safe and only ends up giving false sense of security to nontechnical users
Your last point is extremely important though, AUR is horrible for nontechnical users (which is why the AUR discourages AUR helpers)
Okay having an easily readable build file is a bit missing. Flathub hides that a lot.
I think their rating system, which is on the website and also GNOME Software, displays apps with home access as insecure.
And somehow this seems to be general knowledge and an issue about a privilege escalation through a local override was just closed. Yay
If an AUR package wants to install 137 python dependencies, I usually search for a flatpak instead.
Why is this the case? Have I been installing stuff wrong my entire life?
@pineapplelover @infeeeee No, some people just don't want to install tons of packages just for an application they want to use to. The more package means the higher chance for system breakage. It's better checking dependencies and pkgbuild before install
Yeah but I thought if I installed it through AUR natively then it would be better since if other programs need those same dependencies, I wouldn't have to install them again.
Beside what @fatihozs@mastodon.social wrote:
-bin package.Personally i like chaotic-aur because it's already pre compiled
The only aur packages on my is system is stacer-bin (the only cleaner i trust other than bleachbit)
Stacer for the win!
You can remove dependencies after install, at least in yay, I never do tho.
That's install dependencies (in PKGBUILD they are called makedepends), python programs usually need them for runtime (depends in PKGBUILD). On the main page of a package they are listed together, but on the PKGBUILD they are separate
๐ I know (well that about two types of dependencies)
That python dependency seem more a upstream issue, not a AUR issue, isnโt it? I mean, if I install the same app from another source, it still needs those dependencies, isnโt it?
I have just had bad experiences with flatpack so I don't want to use it and the aur has the stuff I need and flatpack dose not
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