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Dont install random stuff to your system guys (lemmy.kde.social)
submitted 8 months ago by rollingflower@lemmy.kde.social to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world
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flatpak remote-add flathub-verified --subset=verified https://dl.flathub.org/repo/flathub.flatpakrepo
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[-] librecat@lemmy.basedcount.com 56 points 8 months ago

I love flatpak but if you aren't using the AUR on arch what's the point?!

[-] Humorless4483@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago

Wait people don’t just install arch to say that they use it ?

[-] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 4 points 8 months ago

I love Arch but I hate installing and configuring it.

[-] rollingflower@lemmy.kde.social 11 points 8 months ago

I might have something shocking to tell you. There are distros with good defaults!

[-] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

Can you recommend a rolling release distro that has good defaults for hyprland or sway?

[-] rollingflower@lemmy.kde.social 2 points 8 months ago

I can recommend a semi-rolling distro ;D wayblue has some defaults, but I have not tried it. There also is a hardened version of it under the secureblue images. Although I think the maintainer has horrible control issues, I cant deny that the product is near perfect (apart from opinionated Chromium enforcements and some hacky parts like LD_PRELOADing a different allocator) and use the kinoite variant daily.

[-] Ooops@kbin.social 3 points 8 months ago

But that's okay as it's rolling release and unlike other distros you only need to do it exactly once...

[-] 737 11 points 8 months ago

Arch wiki

[-] Darorad@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

I mean most of it works for every distro, not just arch.

[-] 737 14 points 8 months ago

I really like Arch in general, I'd use it without the AUR too. Pacman is great, the repos are nice and girthy, the install process is fast, no bloat. Why wouldn't you use Arch?

[-] KISSmyOSFeddit@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

The installation script fails much too often, so you have to do it manually.

[-] bitwaba@lemmy.world 7 points 8 months ago

He was asking for reasons to not use Arch... Installing by hand is (more than)half the fun.

[-] 737 5 points 8 months ago

it can still be faster than most other installers

[-] pewgar_seemsimandroid 2 points 8 months ago

because i want to trigger arch users

[-] ManniSturgis@lemmy.zip 5 points 8 months ago

Other distros suck tho

[-] ManniSturgis@lemmy.zip 4 points 8 months ago

I just want new packages and Tumbleweed sucks, and don't even get me started on Fedora and their codec nonsense. Every time I tried Fedora I run into issues. You can't even use their packaged version of VLC cause they don't also package the correct version of ffmpeg. Fedora is a joke. Nobara even worse cause that one is outdated on top of it. Arch is the way and you are all wrong.

[-] rollingflower@lemmy.kde.social 4 points 8 months ago

Agree on the Fedora problem, but the solution is pretty easy.

# install the RPM packages, your system is auto detected, the packages take care of updating the repos
sudo dnf install https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/free/fedora/rpmfusion-free-release-$(rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm https://mirrors.rpmfusion.org/nonfree/fedora/rpmfusion-nonfree-release-$(rpm -E %fedora).noarch.rpm

# enable cisco-openh264 to be sure
sudo dnf config-manager --enable fedora-cisco-openh264

# install ffmpeg with allowerase
sudo dnf install ffmpeg --allowerasing

# or, if you just want videos, without uninstalling anything
sudo dnf install libavcodec-freeworld

Thats basically it. On the Atomic variants, installing libavcodec-freeworld is just as easy, but allowerasing doesnt work so you need to uninstall everything manually to unbreak ffmpeg. Or you just use uBlue where it is already done and default (this will also avoid any rpmfusion incompatibilities to happen on your device and on the server instead)

Yes this is annoying, but you do that once and afterwards have a current release more stable than Arch, and an old-supported release that is even more stable.

[-] ManniSturgis@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

but allowerasing doesnt work so you need to uninstall everything manually to unbreak ffmpeg

There we go, that's probably what I should have done. Utterly ridiculous! That's too bad since Kinoite is the best immutable distro out there right now IMHO. (No, I don't count NixOS)

And we can go deeper still, cause I have also tried uBlue! And what do you know, even uBlue sucks. I swear to you I had issues I could not figure out how to solve on every single Fedora 39 thing I tried. Yes, I will admit that a user who is used to the Fedora way will have probably easily solved all those, but not me. And I could say the same about Arch, only on Arch I actually know how to solve my problems. And on Arch people would assume having to fix stuff manually, not on Fedora though. Fedora should be an "it just works" distro like Mint, but it's SO GOD DAMN far from it. Anyways, I honestly believe the entire Fedora eco-system is straight up cursed.

[-] rollingflower@lemmy.kde.social 1 points 8 months ago

Agree, fedora atomic is the best OS base there is. I am also testing COSMIC which is now under the ublue org.

discussion.fedoraproject.org is there for problems.

I agree that Fedora variants need more tweaking, but processes are so damn slow. For example setting up external repos would very well be possible, but they will add an intransparent "add external repos" page to Kinoite. At least that.

[-] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 4 points 8 months ago

Don't you ever talk to me or my wife's distro ever again

[-] promitheas@iusearchlinux.fyi 2 points 8 months ago

Ah, a man of culture

[-] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 8 months ago

Thank software patents for the codec trouble, not Fedora / Red Hat. They just don't want to get their asses sued for free software

Anyway I can use VLC and ffmpeg just fine with RPMFusion, idk what ur issue is, but judging by that

you are all wrong

i probably just wasted my time on a brainless troll like you.

[-] ManniSturgis@lemmy.zip 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

They just don’t want to get their asses sued for free software

How come the other distros don't seem to care? Does it just come down to them being based in the US?. They can't be the only distro mainly based in the US, can they? VLC would not play ANYTHING. That was installed from RPMFusion in Fedora Kinoite 39. But even IF it were to work, this whole RPMFusion thing is ridiculous. If I had to install a bunch of codecs and drivers from the AUR I would say the same about Arch. That would absolutely kill the distro for me.

i probably just wasted my time on a brainless troll like you.

Hard to argue with that ;)

[-] rollingflower@lemmy.kde.social 1 points 8 months ago

How come the other distros don't seem to care?

Obviously because they are SO MUCH MORE BADASS.

No.

https://lmddgtfy.net/?q=why%20can%20ubuntu%20ship%20nonfree%20codecs

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

What sucks exactly with TW? For me it is Arch in easy mode 😂

[-] ManniSturgis@lemmy.zip 2 points 8 months ago

Eh, just my personal opinion. I tried it once and didn't like it. But I can admit that is similar to me saying "Gnome sucks". It's obviously a matter of personal opinion.

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I see

For me, KDE sucks 🤭

[-] 737 1 points 8 months ago

extremely, unfathomably slow updates.

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

🤔 never had that issue on my TW machines

[-] 737 3 points 8 months ago

It's an issue with zypper, if you ever updated your device, you did encounter it. Maybe you have never seen how fast Arch updates are in comparison.

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 3 points 8 months ago

Well my arch machine, I update using yay, and speed it takes differs depending on how long I haven’t use that PC. On my TW PC I don’t know the time it needs, since it does it automatically when I turn off the PC..

[-] rollingflower@lemmy.kde.social 3 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The Arch repos, being quick, rolling, not restricted legally or being upstream of some corpo distro like Fedora or OpenSUSE etc

Idk ask Steam?

[-] Petter1@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago

There are people that choose flatpak for some apps and the AUR for other apps I heard from a friend 🌚

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