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Then, responding to those who have said he’s “only doing this for the money", Szymanski tweeted: “Yes, no fucking shit. I make games for a living. If I didn't want to earn money from them I wouldn't charge money for them.”

The game follows the premise of being trapped in an underwater submarine out of necessity to capture deep pictures.

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[-] superfes@lemmy.world 182 points 1 year ago

People will literally complain about everything, no sense in trying to appease everyone all the time.

[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago

No matter what it is you do or how well you do it, even if you do it for free, a specific subset of motherfuckers will still act like you owe them something.

[-] rikudou@lemmings.world 34 points 1 year ago

Especially when you do it for free. I write a lot of open source and sometimes the comments are real "nice".

[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 year ago

That’s awesome of you and I hope, while those people are unlikely to disappear from your life, your memories of ungrateful feedback last no longer than they would for a salamander.

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[-] NarrativeBear@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

I wish cities and elected officials would have the same mindset. Instead the best action for some reason has become inaction.

Best to do nothing, then have one group or another hate you?

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[-] CriticalMiss@lemmy.world 150 points 1 year ago

Lmao..

AAA dogshit shovelware game increases price from $60 to $70 and some people are unhappy.

Small time indie dev bumps game price from $6 to $8 to keep up with inflation and people lose their shit to the point it goes on gaming msm

No wonder we’re the most abused market.

[-] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 year ago

Well, one is a 17% and one a 33% price hike, so outrage is totally understandable! I'm not being serious, btw.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

This is an excellent example of how you can use statistics/percentages to push a false narrative.

Cause you hear "Dev increased game 33%" and you wonder what the fuck is going on, and in that same vein a 17% price hike doesnt sound nearly as outrageous. Despite the fact that 33% is a paltry 2 dollars, that came with a massive increase in content, and the measly 17% is a massive increase in price for a game that is fundamentally worse than what was made 10 years ago in scope and content.

and to be clear, I am not saying RecluseRamble is in any way pushing any kind of negative/false narrative. I'm just using his % without context (within the vein of his own post) to show how things can be manipulated.

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[-] kryllic@programming.dev 130 points 1 year ago

"I like the business model of ‘I want money so I make something that I think is worth money, and you pay me that money and you get the thing, and we're all happy’,” Szymanski continued. “That's it. There's nothing complicated or hidden here.

Lmao I love it, gonna get this game now

[-] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Also check out Dusk. It's a full length game as opposed to a one and done streamer game.

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[-] adam_y@lemmy.world 108 points 1 year ago

No mate, I'm doing you a favour playing your game. You should pay me. It would be great exposure. I've got literally some followers.

And yeah, I'll bang on about minimum wage being too low and I'll post about AAA Devs ripping off their workers, but a lone developer asking $10 for something that probably took them months, too much. Too much.

What a sell out.

(/S just in case)

[-] adam_y@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

And what's worse, half of those complaining bought Elon's blue tick!

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[-] mp3@lemmy.ca 91 points 1 year ago

Meh, it's two dollars and the dev is an indie, at least it doesn't go towards filling the pockets of a large publisher.

[-] _Sprite@lemmy.world 78 points 1 year ago
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[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 74 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The people complaining about a $2 price increase are the same guys harassing women on Instagram for free OF subs.

[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 70 points 1 year ago

"You're only doing it for the money" to a game dev is the same as being asked in a job interview to show all the git repos you worked on in your spare time.

People develop skills, and they often choose to use those skills to make money. We expect game devs to only break even now? F off with that shit.

[-] whereisk@lemmy.world 51 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I hope this is clever marketing from the developer because I had never heard of this game until now and also because I can't for the life of me figure out why anyone would abuse an indie developer for $2.

I understand some people might do that, but they'd have to be a tiny percentage.

[-] CorrodedCranium@leminal.space 42 points 1 year ago

People bully FOSS developers when their creations are free so I can't say I'm surprised.

I hope this is clever marketing from the developer because I had never heard of this game until now

The same person made DUSK and Squirrel Stapler. Squirrel Stapler and Iron Lung are shorter games that have been popular with streamers.

[-] Kage520@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I once made an app for Samsung watches for disc golf scorekeeping. It could accept any number of players, apply a handicap throughout the game so you could know exactly how you were doing vs your opponent with different handicaps on every hole, and gave a nice scorecard at the end to view. It was $0.99

Someone complained that I made them "throw away their money down the drain" since it didn't also have gps to tell them how far they were from the hole.

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[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Did they face significant backlash? Or is IGN just trying to "make fetch happen"? I might have just missed it.

[-] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 11 points 1 year ago

Yes they did, just read the tweets linked

[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Thank you for responding, but no, I'm not going to xitter.

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[-] eskimofry@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Buying the game now

[-] MagnyusG@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

It's a 5 dollar game (being generous) that was already overpriced at $6. I get wanting more money, but your product isn't worth the price increase to begin with.

[-] August27th@lemmy.ca 56 points 1 year ago

I forgot that everyone is forced to buy this game. This price increase is an outage. If only the people who thought about playing it could make the decision to buy it or not, then that might be reasonable. But come on people, this game costs more than ~~a small pizza~~ half a small pizza!

/s

[-] circuitfarmer@lemmy.sdf.org 28 points 1 year ago

It's a 5 dollar game (being generous) that was already overpriced at $6.

Facts and opinions are different things.

If you don't like the game, or think it's overpriced, don't buy it. The dev should continue to price it as they see fit.

When AAA publishers price games at $70, the solution is not to buy it. It's not different here, except that $6 > $8 is not a difference most people (except the dev, due to volume) will care about.

[-] evranch@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 year ago

And if the difference between $6 and $8 really is where they draw the line, they can always wait for a sale. I've bought many indie games on sale where I thought eh, that might be fun for $12 but not worth risking my $20

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[-] Minotaur@lemm.ee 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, I dunno how fairly to price a video game. But it’s kind of interesting that price increases on some things are universally seen as bad, but when a video game developer does it (irrespective of how much money they have), everyone suddenly becomes the most staunch Ayn Rand free market capitalist in a way I don’t think they would be if their local plumbing company or restaurants suddenly raised prices 20% and said “no fucking shit, I do this for a living”.

It was a big thing with the Disco Elysium game, wherein the creators by all means did every single possible move to maximize their personal profits and ended up having it come back to haunt them, and basically everyone said they were being exploited by this horrific system because they’re vaguely communist game developers.

Again, it’s not to say that David shouldn’t price his game at $8 or that the DE guys didn’t get fucked, but it’s interesting how political views become flexible based on how much an audience likes a guy.

I realize this is grounds for the most downvoted comment on Lemmy. That’s fine. It is what it is.

[-] Spuddlesv2@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

You’ve left one thing out of your little “everyone is a libertarian when it comes to video games” theory there - I’ve never heard of the game, never heard of the dev, I am very much left leaning and I support the dev’s decision to raise the price of the game by 20% if that’s what they want to do. If it’s worth it, people will still buy it. If it’s not, they won’t. This is hardly some AAA publisher pulling a bait and switch during pre-orders. The game is out and available, anyone unsure of it can easily read reviews, watch videos of people playing it, etc and of course, they can also do a refund.

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[-] runeko@programming.dev 13 points 1 year ago
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[-] TonyTonyChopper@mander.xyz 10 points 1 year ago

I picked this one up a few days ago, very cool game concept and well executed

[-] wellee@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's fine, I wasn't going to buy it anyway :) especially if the creator only did it for the money. I will stick to indie games creators make because they like games <3

Edit: hahaha apparently I hurt some people's feelings by having an opinion. Too bad. Indie game isn't worth $6, and it's made by someone who doesn't care about the game, but yeah, go off. I'm going to go play Stardew, something worth money by someone who cares about their game :)

[-] DeadPand@midwest.social 32 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I hope you do your job for free too cause you just like to work :) <3

[-] Croquette@sh.itjust.works 26 points 1 year ago

Shut up. That indie dev has to eat as well. Indie devs also need to get paid to eat and pay rent. Just like a painter selling their art to make ends meet.

You're the kind of person that want arts for free from artists because "it's only 5$ bro".

As the dev said, go pirate it or something.

[-] Dangdoggo@kbin.social 17 points 1 year ago

Oh yeah Eric Barone and Toby Fox gave their millions away right? Stfu.

[-] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 16 points 1 year ago

Why else would you add a price to something?

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[-] frezik@midwest.social 7 points 1 year ago

Turns out, it's not possible to fill your stomach and keep a roof over your head by having enough passion.

"haha, I hurt your feelings by having an opinion". No, you're setting unreasonable expectations in a society that requires money to cover the basics of living. If you'd like to start a revolution to jump directly into a moneyless anarchist collective society, then that's different. Actually, no, it's not, because that revolution isn't happening anytime soon, may not actually work out that way in the end, and even if it does, people shouldn't have to wait to solve the basics of living.

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