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[-] Witchfire@lemmy.world 56 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

My partner and I are flexatarians, it's lovely. The only downside is that it's hard to not eat carb heavy, which is also an issue with vegetarianism and veganism. I feel like a spy among vegetarians.

I really don't eat a lot of meat. When I do it's usually chicken, sausage, or broth. The latter two are great for using bits of the animal that wouldn't normally be consumed alone.

[-] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

I feel very grateful that I grew up in a non-veg household that still ate tofu. And now I am a tofu fiend.

However, eggs are still far less impactful than beef, so, protein options still exist, not to mention all the nuts and beans out there.

Also, what about vegetables? Though I admit these should be part of a diet no matter what your diet is, so doesn't really count.

It's not all carbs in non-meat land, is all I'm saying.

Power to you for whatever works for you though, no judgement.

[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 7 points 8 months ago

I eat pretty much the same, except almost zero carbs because of diabetes. But I've been eating like this for decades because my stomach just can't handle most beef or pork at all (except the sausage) ... it sits like a rock in my gut and takes almost a full day to start feeling normal again.

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[-] Chocrates@lemmy.world 35 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I'm watching the new climate town video as I see this.

Glad the media is still telling us it is our fault as consumers while industry and governments actively work against us.

Yes eating plants is better for the environment and your body. Yes I try to eat mostly plants and I encourage you all to try it, but Capitalism is what is killing us and eating a salad isnt going to fix it.

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago

Actually, quite the opposite. As long as you buy beef, cattle will continue to be a major driver of climate change. Under capitalism, it only gets produced because you buy it

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[-] EatATaco@lemm.ee 8 points 8 months ago

The article literally says producers, consumers, and government are all part of it.

We've gotten to the point that any mention of what an individual can do to reduce their carbon impact is met with "stop blaming us!"

The reality is that we are all responsible and we all have to change, including individuals. You just don't want to change, you want everyone else to. You are just like the rich person that says they care about global warming, as they turn around and jump on their private jet.

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[-] whalebiologist@lemmy.world 34 points 8 months ago

I've been on this diet for 5 years, I call it the "only meat on sale" diet

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[-] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 31 points 8 months ago

Here's an idea, maybe the affluent and ultra rich can stop their decadent luxuries before us peasants give up the few pleasures in life left to us.

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[-] Trashboat 28 points 8 months ago

Maybe I’m being too pessimistic, but feels like this is yet another study to add to the mountain of evidence that people will ignore because they’ve deemed the taste of meat worth an impending global calamity. When will the average persons tipping point be? When oceanfront property is available in Tennessee?

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 18 points 8 months ago

When will the average persons tipping point be?

When its too expensive to buy meat. Its not like this is new either. Here's meat consumption over the last 100 years in the USA:

It tracks decently with the rise in GDP in the USA:

[-] naught@sh.itjust.works 12 points 8 months ago

If you could graph sentient creatures' collective agony I'm sure that would line up pretty well too

I hope things get better

[-] UckyBon@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

People only want to have happy feelings for the animals they eat. It's what they are told since they were toddlers and don't you dare say those animals are actually suffering while they keep stuffing themselves. And they'd go "plants have feelings too!"

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[-] Steve@communick.news 16 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Individual people choosing to "do the right thing" is never going to work. It doesn't matter if any individual chooses the right food, or kind of car, anything else.

Blameing people for not cutting their meat intake, is misplaced.

The government needs to change the market by subsidizing "good" things and taxing "bad" things. That's the only way to change behavior at scale.

[-] birthday_attack@lemm.ee 13 points 8 months ago

Ok but remember when Republicans made up that Biden was going to "outlaw burgers" with the Green New Deal? And how even the made up idea that the govt would stop subsidizing meat caused half the nation to flip their shit, while the other half went "no don't be silly, we would never ever touch your precious tendies."

Appealing to individuals is important because without shifting the public's perception of meat as it relates to climate change, the government will be too terrified to enact those kind of changes for fear of getting voted out by the angry, barbecue-loving mobs.

Until flexitarians, vegetarians, and vegans (I'm vegan btw, just need everyone to know that) become a sizable enough percentage of the voting population, these systemic changes are never going to even be considered by our leaders. So we should keep pressing the importance of these changes to collectively move ourselves closer to that tipping point.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The government needs to change the market by subsidizing “good” things and taxing “bad” things.

Or at least start by ceasing to fucking subsidize the bad things!

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[-] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 27 points 8 months ago

Ya know what would also limit it: Actually stopping like the top 5 companies causing like 60% of all pollution.

Just stop doing carbon credits because it's a literal scam and just shut down any factory that pollutes more than an allowed amount until they get it under control.

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[-] 3volver@lemmy.world 26 points 8 months ago

You know what could also limit global heating? If the fucking wealthy stopped flying in their private jets and stopped cruising in their yachts and stopped buying their 3rd house. Focus on the solutions. Subsidize green energy, tax the oil companies, ban private jets, etc. You know, things that would have an actual impact.

[-] bfg9k@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

Yep, sick of being told I'm the problem and should change my way of living when a single private flight dumps more CO2 into the air than my car puts out in half a year, not to mention the fuel usage.

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[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 24 points 8 months ago

Is this actually news? Seems old to me, thanks OP though for bringing it up again.

[-] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 14 points 8 months ago

The term flexitarian is new to me anyway. Happy this concept is getting more press anyway

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[-] Rozlif@feddit.uk 7 points 8 months ago

it's pretty crazy that no one in this thread has mentioned that going vegan would have a larger impact.

[-] BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago

I am vegan and I would say that but it would result in a big circle jerk as always of "hurr durr bacon".

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[-] RustyShackleford@programming.dev 22 points 8 months ago

Does "flexitarian" mean "eat less meat", basically?

I refuse to click the link because I hate the guardian.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago

Yes.

The best thing you can do to limit global warming without political power is to not reproduce. The next best thing is to quit eating meat. The less meat you eat the better. And as a bonus it’s highly unlikely to be as much of a sacrifice as not having a wanted child.

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[-] m13@lemmy.world 22 points 8 months ago

Or we could eat like 3 billionaires.

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[-] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 12 points 8 months ago

i cut down my meat consumption to almost zero. maybe some beef pho on the weekend sometimes..... but i HATE the term flexitarian.... i refuse to call myself that...

[-] Skua@kbin.social 12 points 8 months ago

Ehh, what you call yourself isn't important. The point is you're still eating a diet that's compatible with not fucking the environment

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[-] tunetardis@lemmy.ca 11 points 8 months ago

I guess I'm essentially a flexitarian at this point, though I have never labelled myself as such. I tend to opt for non-meat options but am nowhere near vegan as I only learned after my daughter started dating one. What an incredible minefield it is! You have to sit around and analyze absolutely everything. Like can you believe pepsi is vegan but not diet pepsi?!? But diet coke is. I don't know about coke zero and am frankly afraid to ask…

[-] Uranium3006@kbin.social 9 points 8 months ago

Wait what did they put in the diet pepsi?

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

I think it’s a trade secret. Probably something like how Guinness used to use fish bladders as a filter

[-] lettruthout@lemmy.world 9 points 8 months ago

For me being flexible help ramp down my consumption of meat. Each day without was a win. These days it's very rare that I eat any meat. It's become boring compared to the fun of a meatless diet.

[-] Leviathan@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

I guess I've been a flexitarian since 2016ish. I have a few vegetarian days a week for environmental reasons.

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[-] Outsider9042@lemmy.world 8 points 8 months ago

Are we doing this again?

The are 100 companies are responsible for 70% of global emissions. States can test nuclear weapons in the Pacific Ocean; nah eat a salad for lunch.

[-] jeffw@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

And what do those companies produce? A lot of them make food. They don’t give a fuck as long as people keep eating insane amounts of meat.

But if it makes you feel better, abdicate your personal responsibility and point the finger. But no matter how you vote, it won’t save the world as long as meat production is going up. They don’t raise the cows if you don’t buy the beef

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