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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by SuddenDownpour@lemmy.world to c/lemmyworld@lemmy.world

If the fediverse is going to be a decentralized, non-commercial network, and it works properly, I'm willing to contribute some share, as long as there's transparency about the costs and the budget. Do we have access about this information for any instance in general, or for @world in particular?

Edit: Well I found it for @world: Enter https://opencollective.com/mastodonworld , then click on Budget.

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[-] jon@lemmy.tf 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is going to have to be a per-instance thing. Smaller instances may be fine indefinitely with no donations/outside funding, but large instances will eventually require dedicated hardware or kubernetes clusters to scale adequately. Larger instances absolutely should run funding drives as they need to in order to keep up with their expenses. That, or we get ads on here eventually... which would suck.

Another option would be to do federation-wide fundraising and split it out with crypto or something to instance owners that opt in... take some arbitrary cut for the Lemmy devs and split the rest out to participating instances based on their share of active users or something. But that would need some serious anti-fraud controls to keep a rogue instance owner from creating a ton of local spam accounts to rake in funds.

[-] PenguinTD@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

Like say, old time Quake/CS servers, those info are pretty much not going to be transparent until it's setup and run by a non-profit org. Because, the best they can do is to provide monthly server bills and if they setup account that are dedicated to pay for that bill. Cause otherwise too much personal info is involved, and server owner does not owe you that as well. You either trust the owner from their past performance, or join one that matches your standard. embeded content(img or video use other service) does not consume storage nor bandwidth to the server owners. (PS. malicious owner can always fake reports etc and you will have no way to verify. )

However, I do not know the sharing part works and how that's been handled. Say, lemmy.world have more user and needs to update to other instances more if people subscribe from different instance? I don't know the percentage of incoming traffic compare to out-going and what tier of bandwidth we are talking about renting server wise.

[-] johndroid@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I am in the process of deleting 10 years of comments (thanks, Power Delete Suite!). I'm keeping the account because I need to check in on breaking news and the site is still useful for that. Until they get rid of old.reddit—at which point I'm deleting the account permanently.

And if I'm completely honest, it kind of hurts. My primate brain really enjoyed the dopamine hits when I got complimented, upvoted, and gilded.

I'm getting used to the smaller, more community-focused scope of the Fediverse.

[-] PenguinTD@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

lol, my old ass feel right at home really cause this is like what old internet(even WWW internet) worked but with decades of protocol and FOSS and infrastructure as new back end. I remember I had to wake up and go to server room to reboot our game servers run for the entire campus( it was a mixed battle.net for starcraft/diablo + Quake server), and now a days you can just schedule regular restart or a process monitor daemon. You can even spin up more instances if your servers are too full and require a new one to off load.

It's good to be in a smaller community, this is how it should be like.

[-] Faendol@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

I really like it so far and I love that it theoretically avoids the problems we had with reddit ever arising in the future. I'm a bit worried it might be a bit too complicated for normal users. But I guess we'll have to see. I'm also a bit worried about it from a security perspective, what's stopping someone making a hostile instance or faking a lemmy instance to get people to click malicious links? They can be hosted on any website so you can't really know.

[-] Blackbart42@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

There is a Patreon too if you want to contribute to covering server costs

[-] slashzero@hakbox.social 2 points 1 year ago

I consider lemmy.world and startrek.website my "lemmy homes", but, I host my own instance and do most of my interactions via my instance so I don't contribute to overloading lemmy.world.

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