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cross-posted from: https://sh.itjust.works/post/16660104

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[-] NotBadAndYou@ttrpg.network 104 points 6 months ago

I'm assuming 1172 is a count of donations to official mainstream servers. I have definitely contributed to my local server.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 79 points 6 months ago

I think it's only donations to the development team. Summing up the donors across Liberapay, Open Collective and Patreon gives close to the number in the title.

[-] andrewrgross@slrpnk.net 11 points 6 months ago

I am a Patreon supporter of the developers. It's that the best way to support the project?

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 25 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

The Lemmy project - yes. You want to check if your home instance is sustainably funded too. I think lemmy.world for example is well funded. So is lemmy.ca - my home instance.

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[-] Snapz@lemmy.world 59 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I think it's a symptom of Lemmy's core premise - where do I direct funds as the "common" user (read as less technically sophisticated)? To access and engage with Lemmy I...

  1. use an app...
  2. that channels a specific server....
  3. contained within are individual mods that maintain communities and curate content...
  4. and all of that lives within the larger "world" of Lemmy as an idea

There are many hands in that chain. Your dedicated users can handle negotiating that decision maybe, but the "common" user cannot - and this post is trying to discuss Lemmy at scale, so you're talking about that "common" user.

Again, it's counter to the founding spirit of Lemmy, but we're missing a centralized path to supporting all of the distributed hands doing work on this idea. Not an easy problem to solve, but one that should be acknowledged.

[-] Coldgoron@lemmy.world 59 points 6 months ago
[-] aeharding@lemmy.world 39 points 6 months ago
[-] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 18 points 6 months ago

Seeing your comment I was like, oh I know this guy. And then I remembered you are the one building the lemmy frontend I use. Thank you :)

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[-] vox@sopuli.xyz 37 points 6 months ago

I'm poor af alright?

[-] trolololol@lemmy.world 37 points 6 months ago

I had no idea it accepted donations, if not for this post I would have no idea where to do it. And still not sure how it works and where the money is for exactly. Is it like sponsoring servers for 1 particular instance?

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 21 points 6 months ago

The links in this post are for funding the two developers who work full time on Lemmy, the software.

The instances are sponsored separately via their own contribution links. E.g. look at the sidebar on lemmy.world and you're probably gonna find them.

For the system to work we need to fund both the software development and the instances. Currently the software development funding is further behind as it still doesn't cover two modest salaries. On the other hand I think lemmy.world is sustainably funded. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

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[-] Muscar@discuss.online 34 points 6 months ago

53k monthly active users is way less than I expected. But makes sense with how slow things are here.

[-] locke@sopuli.xyz 28 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Yeah I'm definitely not gonna donate money to people who are publically and proudly communists.

I might donate to my local instance though. They seem like cool cats.

[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 51 points 6 months ago

Nothing wrong with being a communist. Being a tankie on the other hand... Fuck them

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[-] Potatos_are_not_friends@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Communists are people who live on a commune.

A commune is a group of people living together and sharing possessions and responsibilities.

On one end, a group of friends who live in a house sharing food and living space, you can absolutely call them communists. And the other end of all the bad shit. Same with capitalist, where there's multiple angles of it all.

That bad shit is tankie, where its authoritarian communists.

I hope I helped.

[-] locke@sopuli.xyz 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Communists are people who live on a commune.

That's perhaps not a commonly(hah) agreed definition of the word.

[-] assembly@lemmy.world 25 points 6 months ago

Using this as my opportunity to brag that I have been a donor since the Reddit exodus! Hopefully I am donating to the right place:

https://liberapay.com/dessalines

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 18 points 6 months ago

The official Liberapay link now points to https://liberapay.com/Lemmy/.

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[-] SharkAttak@kbin.social 20 points 6 months ago

Yeah no, after seeing how they treat their users and mods.. I'll stick to funding my instance.

[-] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 19 points 5 months ago

I know people like to shit on the Reddit gold concept. But I still think it makes sense and is one of the least obtrusive ways to raise funds sustainably.

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[-] ChihuahuaOfDoom@lemmy.world 17 points 6 months ago

I give $1 a month on patreon, hopefully that's enough cause I'm broke AF.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 17 points 6 months ago

If you're broke, don't give. I think there's enough of us who can afford a few bucks a month and we should get more people to do it.

[-] KrankyKong@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

It's a dollar more per month than most of us, including myself, will ever give.

[-] leanleft@lemmy.ml 15 points 6 months ago

i was once told to hotlink images from other hosters.. as opposed to uploading to lemmy. (to save on resources!)

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[-] Harbinger01173430@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

We like free stuff?

[-] DingoBilly@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago
[-] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 6 months ago

Do you like it here? Do you want it to succeed? Do you realize that instance servers and rust developers cost money? Those are the reasons why.

Either we help this place thrive now, or we’ll be watching assholes like Threads dominate the Fediverse. We can all be part of the solution, or we can be apathetic and continue to complain about the corporate internet while doing absolutely nothing about it.

I have never regretted a donation to a FOSS project.

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[-] Chewget@lemm.ee 12 points 6 months ago
[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

poor losers like us are the ones likely to spend our time in places like this.

and poor losers like us dont have the money to donate.

[-] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I would bet that at least 90% of Lemmy could afford a recurring donation of $1 to $3 per month. If 90% of 50,000 users donated $1 per month, they could bring in $45,000 per year. Currently, the 1172 donators are donating even more than that, which pays for 1 full time developer. If we picked up the slack, they could afford two, effectively doubling the dedicated work output.

It’s that simple. Either we band together and keep this system afloat, or we give our data to corporations so they can sell it and pay the bills that way. There isn’t really a third option.

Edit: I can’t believe this has been up this long and nobody has corrected my awful math. It isn’t $45,000 per year, it’s 45,000 users donating a combined total of $540,000 per year. Basically, 90% of us donating $1 per month could take this rocket ship straight to the moon.

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

I need my union contract before I can afford donating 😭

[-] Amir@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I'm on Lemmy.ml, so I've been donating €10 monthly for the past year to dessalines!

[-] qdJzXuisAndVQb2@lemm.ee 14 points 6 months ago

Lol, what a waste

[-] fuckingkangaroos@lemm.ee 10 points 6 months ago

Might as well just send the money straight to Putin's propaganda department.

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[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

I’ve been stating since I joined that Lemmy needs to find a way to sustain itself beyond donations.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 26 points 6 months ago

If you're not paying with real money or work, someone else is, or you're paying with something else.

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[-] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 16 points 6 months ago

Anything beyond donation is asking for ads.

[-] squid_slime@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago

Its important to view this through an economic scope, what is the cost of a regular user to a server. Then how much are donors giving and does that supplement the cost of non paying regular users.

Also these non paying regular user add to Lemmy by buffing out numbers and attracting more donating user to the platform.

If we can donate then we definitely should and that way we can run under this model.

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[-] jussi@lemmy.duck.cafe 10 points 6 months ago

I did try donating for Lemmy through Liberapay using the link in this post but canceled the process when I saw that the money recipient was “peertube.social”, which I don’t use. I’d feel better donating if the money went to Lemmy and not Peertube.

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[-] jacktherippah@lemmy.world 9 points 6 months ago

I would donate if I wasn't so broke =)

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Word. The large instances are well funded at the moment. I think the funding is lacking on the developer side. Subscribe if you can. I have. :)

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