That's still a lot of people that think it's all great and unicorns and rainbows. How?
Because they don't want to admit they made a mistake.
I know somebody like this. Conversations end up with him raising a few dumb points, which he claims is worth it.
We both work in the same company which used to export 40% of manufactured goods to the EU. The customers we have managed to retain now come with additional costs. If it was a smaller business it could have forced closure. It baffles me how he thinks the way he does.
Cognitive dissonance.
If the last few years have proven anything to me, it’s that about 30% of our population is at best dismayingly gullible, and at worst unmitigated racist assholes who enjoy seeing out-groups they don’t belong to hurt.
I know two people who voted to leave because they had no opinion on the matter so thought leaving would be the default option. One was my sister. Neither pay attention to news or current affairs. Baffling.
Both got extremely defensive when I pointed out how backwards that was then started making up rubbish in efforts to justify their decision.
I voted remain for the same reason your sister voted leave, I wasnt aware of the effect of either side so my thought process was "better the devil we know"
It amazes me what people with the ability to vote will do sometimes.
That's what I said to her. Defaulting to exit is voting for the unknown, without understanding it might be good but it could also be bad. Or vote to remain to continue living the way you always have been.
I'm sure some people voted with anger or desperation. Hoping change, any change, will somehow better their lives. I can only think that's what my sister did what with living in border line provety.
Only 30%? Seems pretty much the majority these days
30% is pretty close both in the UK and US and I suspect most other places. The problem is the 30% are far more united due to simpler desires and thus can form majorities while the rest of us are disagreeing with eachother.
Yeah, probably. That's the best condition for a based vote deciding the fate of millions
People who don't spend one minute to (re)think it.
Does the mean Brexit will be replaced by Brenter?
The Breturn
Ole Brent is going to find the terms of entry a lot less favorable.
People need to voice their opinion by writing to the their respective MPs. Nothing will ever happen unless there is a threat to votes.
No point with my MP. He always does what the Tory line is. He was one of the few MPs that turned up for the Boris thing and voted that it was wrong he should be suspended for 90 days.
MPs should do what the party line is TBF. MPs that get elected because they are with a particular party should follow that mandate they were elected for or stand as independent. When people complain about MP voting records, it is a bit silly if that MP is following the mandate. It is rare to see a 3 line whip that is not on the mandate, present government excluded from the norms of government OFC. The privileges committee vote was a single line whip, which means attendance is not compulsory, and guidance on how to vote may or may not be there. Voting against the committee recommendations is pretty low I have to admit. I would still write him a letter to make the bugger work a bit extra, just to piss him off.
At the recent local elections, I think Labour made two door stop visits and all we got from the Tories was a leaflet.
That is the problem with FPTP voting. They only need to focus on the swing areas. The rest of the country gets ignored. This is why the Tories have held onto power more than any other party. Campaigns are costly but produce votes, and they have more to spend than any other party. I keep saying it, we need a PR voting system. Far too many vote for what they don't want and that leaves many without a say at all. I would really like to see party donations abolished along with second jobs. Restrict campaigns to a publicly funded platform, so that all get equal say. There should be a fact checking process merged into that to stop the lies that are being thrown around to con people.
It'll be interesting to see what happens after labour wins.
If I'm not mistaken, brexit should allow them to more easily nationalise stuff like railways or public utilities (water, gas, ...).
Of course, that's exactly the kind of thing many right wing brexit voters hate, but it'll be interesting to see if that's now become possible.
I seriously doubt current labour would be doing much nationalising.
With a broken country where would they get the cash from. Nationalising is an expensive thing to do.
There is nothing to stop them from running a nationalised rail service under EU law. This is something that Mick Lynch likes to use to vindicate the way he told his members to vote for Brexit. https://theconversation.com/fact-check-do-new-eu-rules-make-it-impossible-to-renationalise-railways-61180
No surprises really. What with brexit being such a rip roaring success.
Other than the agriculture policy change from the awful CAP production subsidy, and potentially better AI regulation, they haven't actually done anything.
It's a failure of the Tories really.
Only because they are being forced to see the consequences of their actions.
We have our special passports yes but its not worth much when there's no food in the belly.
It's so, so annoying that people who cheered on Brexit back then are only just now saying that it was the wrong choice - it's 7 years too late for that, we're in the thick of it now!
These people must bump into everything with how short-sighted they were.
It's was the attitude of, "the Tories don't won't it, and I don't like them, and it won't happen anyway, so I'll vote for it" that gets on my nerves.
I don't think they have changed their minds. They are just literally dying off.
Five to ten more years and then the British sheeps will probably be satisfied with their solution. Just my guess.
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