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submitted 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) by db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

Hey mates, recently I've developed a tool to use the GenerativeAI on the AI Horde to created random avatars and banners on lemmy. To keep things spicy, I wanted to deploy to rotate the /c/piracy banner daily, as I've done in a bunch of other communities like !stable_diffusion_art@lemmy.dbzer0.com and the lemmy.dbzer0.com.

So now this is now active!

In case you're curious,. the current prompt used is this:

"A of a (solo:1.2) {cyberpunk|steampunk|solarpunk|dieselpunk|anarchist|fantasy|science fiction} {disney pixar 3D|realistic|dreamworks 3D animation} {male|female|androgynous} {Abkhazian|Afghan|Åland Island|Albanian|Algerian|American Samoan|Andorran|Angolan|Anguillan|Antarctic|Antiguan|Argentine|Armenian|Aruban|Australian|Austrian|Azerbaijani|Bahamian|Bahraini|Bangladeshi|Barbadian|Belarusian Belgian|Belizean|Beninois|Bermudian|Bhutanese|Bolivian|Bonaire|Herzegovinian|Botswana|Bouvet Island|Brazilian|BIOT|Bruneian|Bulgarian|Burkinabé|Burundian|Cabo Verdean|Cambodian|Cameroonian|Canadian|Caymanian|Central African|Chadian|Chilean|Chinese|Christmas Island|Cocos Island|Colombian|Comorian|Congolese|Congolese|Cook Island|Costa Rican|Croatian|Cuban|Curaçaoan|Cypriot|Czech|Danish|Djiboutian|Dominican|Dominican|Timorese|Ecuadorian|Egyptian|Salvadoran|English|Equatorial Guinean|Eritrean|Estonian|Swati|Ethiopian|European|Falkland Island|Faroese|Fijian|Finnish|French|French Guianese|French Polynesian|French Southern Territories|Gabonese|Gambian|Georgian|German|Ghanaian|Gibraltar|Greek|Greenland|Grenadian|Guadeloupe|Guamanian|Guatemalan|Guernsey|Guinean|Bissau-Guinean|Guyanese|Haitian|Heard Island|Honduran|Cantonese|Magyar|Icelandic|Indian|Indonesian|Iranian|Iraqi|Irish|Manx|Israelite|Italian|Ivorian|Jamaican|Jan Mayen|Japanese|Jersey|Jordanian|Kazakhstani|Kenyan|Kiribati|North Korean|South Korean|Kosovan|Kuwaiti|Kyrgyzstani|Laotian|Latvian|Lebanese|Basotho|Liberian|Libyan|Liechtensteiner|Lithuanian|Luxembourgish|Macanese|Madagascan|Malawian|Malaysian|Maldivian|Malinese|Maltese|Marshallese|Martiniquais|Mauritanian|Mauritian|Mahoran|Mexican|Micronesian|Moldovan|Monégasque|Mongolian|Montenegrin|Montserratian|Moroccan|Mozambican|Myanma Burmese|Namibian|Nauruan|Nepalese|Dutch|New Caledonian|New Zealand|Nicaraguan|Nigerien|Nigerian|Niuean|Norfolk Island|Macedonian|Northern Irish|Northern Marianan|Norwegian|Omani|Pakistani|Palauan|Palestinian|Panamanian|Papuan|Paraguayan|Peruvian|Filipino|Pitcairn Island|Polish|Portuguese|Puerto Rican|Qatari|Réunionnais|Romanian|Russian|Rwandan|Saban|Barthélemois|Saint Helenian|Kittitian|Saint Lucian|Saint-Martinoise|Miquelonnais|Vincentian|Samoan|Sammarinese|São Toméan|Saudi|Scottish|Senegalese|Serbian|Seychellois|Sierra Leonean|Singaporean|Sint EustatiusStatian|Sint Maarten|Slovak|Slovenian|Solomon Island|Somali|South African|South Georgia Island|South Ossetian|South Sudanese|Spanish|Sri Lankan|Sudanese|Surinamese|Svalbard|Swedish|Swiss|Syrian|Taiwanese|Tajikistani|Tanzanian|Thai|Timorese|Togolese|Tokelauan|Tongan|Trinidadian|Tunisian|Turkish|Turkmen|Turks and Caicos Island|Tuvaluan|Ugandan|Ukrainian|Emirati|British|American|Uruguayan|Uzbekistani|Ni-Vanuatu|Vaticanian|Venezuelan|Vietnamese|British Virgin Island|U.S. Virgin Island|Welsh|Wallis and Futuna|Sahrawi|Yemeni|Zambian|Zanzibari|Zimbabwean} pirate {standing in front of a sail|sitting in front of a monitor}, {Rococo|Digital Art|Baroque} style, wearing a {red|blue|yellow|green|black|white} {bandana|hat|scarf} and holding a {crimson|gold|silver|emerald|magic|azure|obsidian|ebony} {sword|keyboard|compass|mug|treasure|flag|club|amulet|fruit}, rich detailed {open|cloudy|stormy|sunny} sky background###multiple people, duo, cleavage, bitcoin"

Pretty long ye? The way this works is that each a random option is picked from each collection wrapped in { } which allows me to generate versatile options every day to keep things fresh

Here's some sample images that will be created

If you have improvements you want to see on the prompt, do let me know in the comments. In the future I'm having thoughts of allowing the community here to automatically send adjustments ideas to the prompt for funsies.

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[-] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 81 points 6 months ago

Phenomenal work as always!

My suggestion is mood and topic based prompts derived from the current trajectory of the sub, for example:

Always compared to the day before

  • more swearwords = stormy weather
  • more anti corporate speak = more punky/anarchist pictures
  • more friendly words = sunny weather
  • more people joining = more ships in the background
  • more posts = more loot/gold in the background

This is pretty complex but would give it a unique adaptive vibe instead of randomness alone.

Just an idea. Thanks for reading. :)

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 6 months ago

Oh that's a great idea! I'll see if I can utilize this somehow. Feel free to share code as well ;)

[-] haui_lemmy@lemmy.giftedmc.com 9 points 6 months ago

Thanks! Will try if I can come up with something.

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[-] UnRelatedBurner@sh.itjust.works 48 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

While this is very cool, and a nice idea. I have to vote aginst it. AI art is just so uncanny and soulless.

In my opinion it'd be way better to have human-drawn art as the banner. For starters AI generated "art" can't really even be called art. "Art" implies that it has some meaning, value, message, or a memory even. AI can make art tho, when you mastered it and use it the same as painter uses a brush. I don't think a daily random gen in compatible with putting care into what you create. If we switch the banner every day with another auto generated picture, it'll be just that; a cool picture. But if we maybe switch it up every year (for it to not be stale) with an art competition it'll have love in it at least, with possibilty for all kind of valuables, such as refrences or a unique style.

You could get around this issue with an avatar. A mascot (of the community) if you will. After having the mascot fed to an AI it can generate it in any position doing anything with any background, allowing us to not waste the idea of another commenter (haui), who suggested that it should be dynamic, that it should change depending on what happened the previous day. It could be refreshed daily, it could be made dynamic, and it'll have soul.

I can't draw. But I think I speak for others when I say that I wouldn't mind drawing a character for a community that I can thank thousands of dollars to.

[-] Stretch@lemmy.dbzer0.com 48 points 6 months ago

For starters AI generated "art" can't really even be called art.

You called it art. Zer0 said images, and its just that.

I'm old enough to recall when people said electronica and sampling wasn't music. Since then, we have Hip Hop, Daft Punk, Crystal Method, Deadmau5, and hundreds of others wasting their time with music and Grammy nominations and wins.

No reason to take such a strong stance against a daily banner that combines OP's interests. It's their instance, after all.

Generative imagery puts creativity in the hands of many more than are artistically or dexterously gifted enough to communicate artistically. It takes nothing away from the community, and if you prefer not to look at it, its as simple as averting your eyeballs a few degrees.

[-] krimsonbun 9 points 6 months ago

Generative imagery puts creativity in the hands of many more than are artistically or dexterously gifted enough to communicate artistically. It takes nothing away from the community, and if you prefer not to look at it, its as simple as averting your eyeballs a few degrees.

You're acting as if making art is an ability you're born with and you can't make art if you weren't gifted with it at birth. The beautiful thing about art is the skill and dedication put into the piece.

One of the main things that make humans human, is our creativity, why would we give that up?

Making art with electronics is very different to having "art" made by electronics.

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[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 6 months ago

We had an AI banner for months. You could have offered these suggestion any time before now. Anyway, the idea of a reusing a recognisable mascot in the GenAI art isn't bad

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[-] hazeebabee@slrpnk.net 32 points 6 months ago

Yo db dont let these haters get you down. I think it looks like a really cool project and love the idea of a shifting banner than anyone can contribute prompts to. I also love the idea of backgroud details being influenced by various metrics of the community.

AI is a tool (just like photoshop, electric lawn mowers, and combustion engines). Anyone who thinks its replacing artists are really underestimating the editing needed to produce something good from AI generators. And this is comming from a writer who loves how much AI has helped with various parts of the process.

[-] hatedbad@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 6 months ago

AI is a tool that is fundamentally based on the concept of theft and plagiarism. The LLM training data comes from artists and creators that did not consent to their work being plagiarized by a hallucinating machine.

[-] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 6 months ago

Man, I love a person on u/piracy arguing we can't do something because it's theft and plagiarism.

Keelhauling is too good for them.

[-] hatedbad@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 6 months ago

yeah silly me for supporting artists with my money but also downloading drm-free copies of things so I can actually exercise a semblance of ownership. but sure, keelhaul me so you can keep your sense of smug superiority.

[-] hazeebabee@slrpnk.net 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I see where youre comming from & also think its important to support artists I like, and I do. I think both AI and artists can coexist & serve different purposes.

Something like this, using AI for a banner, is using a tool for people to create something they couldnt/wouldnt before. It doesnt mean I'm not going to buy a cool print or painting from an artist I like.

& I think its cool to have something that aggregates information and makes it accesible and easy to work with for the masses. Its messed up that it is currently controlled by corporate interests, but there are also people working on FOSS ai. Its this kind of snapshot of humanity in its current state, that I think goes beyond any particular artist/writer/person.

I get being worried about it taking jobs, but I think new ones will spring up to take their place.

(Or really optimistically maybe well see some sort of radical change that will make the concept of 'earning a living' obsolete, like UBI or something)

Edited to add: as a writer, people who buy my writing wouldnt just use ai to replace me. If anything it can supplement my work by making it easier for fans to make fanart & help build hype around the universe and characters that I created.

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[-] communism@lemmy.ml 12 points 6 months ago

You are in a piracy community

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[-] PrivateNoob@sopuli.xyz 30 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Hello! The idea is phenomenal, although I feel that some or most of the genAI images look uncanny usually. I would honestly prefer human made arts, but those could be really costly, so that's totally understandable. I'm impartial on this decision tho, do anything you like! ^^

Also we can lengthen the rotation process tho. A weekly or monthly change would be plenty sufficient, but it's just a small preference.

[-] knightly@pawb.social 17 points 6 months ago

This is the kind of wasteful BS that will make me unsubscribe from a whole instance.

I'm here for piracy news, not bad art. Who is this supposed to appeal to?

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 6 months ago

My brother in christ, you have a banner either way. What exactly is bothering you?

[-] Kolli@sopuli.xyz 9 points 6 months ago

I understand the commenters point, even though I find it poorly conveyed. Some may find this a cool AI-generation project. Does it have anything to do with piracy, the point of this community? Barely if at all. So while it may be foolish and silly to berate the owner of the system, I think this is not the right place to publish about this project.

And I really don't think people can be blamed either for bringing out this issue.

Please consider my message in good faith.

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 6 months ago

It's a change in something about /c/piracy. Where else would I publish this?

[-] knightly@pawb.social 7 points 6 months ago

The better question is why else you would publish this.

Why did the old banner need replacement? Why not just replace it instead of setting up a bot to waste resources on a painfully generic new banner every day? Why not make it a community effort rather than a soulless corporate one?

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

There's nothing corporate about what I do here.

As to why? The because I thought it would be a cool idea to have a new banner every day and because I like randomness, chaos and emergent order. Why do humans change things? Because we can. Because we find the idea cool. Because we like experimenting with creative tools and coming out with never seen before ideas and interactions.

[-] FigMcLargeHuge@sh.itjust.works 8 points 6 months ago

You are fighting a losing battle and are damned if you do and damned if you don't. I am willing to bet the people complaining about things being changed wouldn't have even noticed if you hadn't pointed it out. LOL.

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 6 months ago

Oh totally. The irony is that the previous banner was GenAI as well.

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[-] knightly@pawb.social 8 points 6 months ago

I have problems with so-called "AI" image generators at every level. Economic, ecological, functional, artistic, and moral.

Do you want an essay or just the bullet points?

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 6 months ago

Your personal feelings aside, this doesn't practically affect you in any way from how it used to be until now.

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[-] cupcakezealot 19 points 6 months ago

I’m here for piracy news, not bad art. Who is this supposed to appeal to?

hi it's me. i'm here for both. :)

[-] Halosheep@lemm.ee 12 points 6 months ago

Instance owner: does something they thought would be cool and was likely interesting to implement

Weird lemmy users: tHiS iS wAsTeFuL bS

You being butt hurt about something INCREDIBLY inconsequential like AI art isn't going to make it go away.

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[-] brickfrog@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Keep in mind the instance itself hosts generative AI communities, it is even mentioned in the sidebar of https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/

as well as the instance's local communities list

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/communities

Anyways this all seems like a non-issue IMO, most people don't even see the community homepage and would hardly ever see the banner pic. And db0 isn't talking about flooding /c/piracy with AI art posts, just updating the community banner... though this instance does have a local community !stable_diffusion_art@lemmy.dbzer0.com if you're interested in seeing AI art posts.

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 15 points 6 months ago

I really don't have a say as a user on another server, but I'd think you should do what you want because a pirate is free.

Plaster AI generated images everywhere on the background.

Change the webui font to Comic Sans except set the letter h as Times New Roman.

Make everything pink, yellow and bright green so that copyright trolls manually viewing the site can't see anything without being attacked by awful colours.

Do what your heart desires, db0. Embrace chaos, or don't.

Not sure why people are surprised about AI images. You and this server have been using them for a while now. And many of your tools (e.g. Overseer) imo are great uses of AI.

[-] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 11 points 6 months ago

Hey, this is awesome! I might have to set this up to change the banner on my own instance daily. I’ve written a decent amount of python in my time so maybe I can take a look at the code too.

[-] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Fluxa Avataria is linked on the top. PRs or suggestions welcome.

[-] Facebones@reddthat.com 10 points 6 months ago

Dropping by to say I'm against the AI banners. The various reasons have been laid out and bickered about plenty already, just throwing my opinion in the ring. I think it'd be cooler to put a call out to the community for artists to whip up some banners with their tag for promotion and cycle through those, but that's just me.

I'm not here to die on a hill and argue so don't @ me if you're just tryna fight.

[-] loppwn@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 months ago

i dont like them. They look like the millionth ai-art-post and i am sick of this. I would prefer some ascii/ansi art - its more nerdy and fits more to the releases we consume.

[-] HBK@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 6 months ago

Also wanted to drop a comment that this is awesome and a fantastic use of AI!

[-] lemann@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 6 months ago

Very neat 👌🎉🎉

On a separate note, last one is probably a swordmaster with those 6 fingers lol

[-] cupcakezealot 8 points 6 months ago

damned six fingered man who killed inigo's dad.

[-] Emmy@lemmy.nz 9 points 6 months ago

My vote is no. While piracy is used to store and preserve media, at least for me. This directly deprives artists, something I can't support.

Ai in all its generative forms is bad for everyone and I do not support it or your use of it.

[-] Melatonin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 6 months ago

Artists are deprived residuals because of your "preservation" piracy. Stop splitting hairs.

In for a penny, in for a pound. They're pirates. We're pirates.

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[-] zaknenou@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 6 months ago

Be Weird, Download a Car, Generate Art, Screw Copyrights

Captain be taking his motto onto other levels

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