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[-] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 102 points 10 months ago

We seem to like to draw a line between crimes where the damages caused are visible from those where the damages caused are less visible, but its undoubtable that the crimes of the wealthy, so called white collar crimes, cause just as real material pain and suffering and societal damage.

If anything, the consequences of a crime should be scaled by your wealth and privileged in a society, because you really have no excuse for not following the law. Earn above a million dollars a year? Well a parking ticket costs you 10s of thousands of dollars? Earn above a billion a year and park outside the lines? Gallows.

[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago

If proven beyond a doubt, I agree. But the communist leadership has been fairly lax on enforcement ... until now that is. One has to wonder why all of a sudden they've decided to do something?

[-] girlfreddy@lemmy.ca 57 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I feel like this is an important thing.

Top global firms, such as Ernst & Young and KPMG, did not flag concerns about the bank in their audits, public documents show.

[-] BugKilla@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

The board, CEOs and senior executives of these leeches need to be standing in line holding their wicker baskets.

[-] az04@lemmy.world 55 points 10 months ago

The state shouldn't be in the business of killing people.

[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 36 points 10 months ago

While true, billionaires shouldn't be in the business of existing.

[-] Hooverx@lemm.ee 29 points 10 months ago

$12 billion dollars is the equivalent of the 1.3 million years of work in vietnam. that's the livelihoods of more than 34000 people, stolen to profit one person.

[-] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 5 points 10 months ago

Killing them won't change that.

[-] Hooverx@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

seizing their assets will

[-] nutsack@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

The Vietnamese government does things like this on a cyclical basis. Every rich person here and everyone in government is corrupt as fuck. The president resigned a few hours ago over corruption. The president before him resigned just over a year ago over corruption. They're all stealing money. New government comes in and puts the old government in jail for corruption. A newer government comes in and puts that government in jail for corruption. Death sentences for people in top positions and bankers and whoever else. But they're all corrupt. Everyone above middle class here is corrupt.

[-] Plopp@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago

Completely agree. Except for billionaires. Kill them all and do something useful for society with their money.

[-] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 7 points 10 months ago

Man people on this site are so bloodthirsty. Why not just seize their assets and liquidate them?

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I honestly think there is comfort in the idea that it will literally never happen so it's easier for them to throw around "guillotine" in place of "I'm mad and I hate these people."

They'll still argue that they mean it but they will literally never do it.

Never.

Again for those in the back, you people will never break out the guillotines, it's all talk.

[-] Schnabeltierpoet@feddit.de 3 points 10 months ago

Why not just seize their assets and liquidate them?

YES, YES! Seize their assets and liquidate the billionaires!

[-] Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 10 months ago

The damage billionaires can do by leveraging their money is so immense it could financially ruin many people's lives. How many end up homeless or kill themselves out of despair? Their one life isn't enough to balance the scales but it'll send a very clear message to white collar criminals once one is executed: the damage you do is tantamount to first degree murder and will be punished as such.

[-] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 31 points 10 months ago
[-] ahornsirup@sopuli.xyz 84 points 10 months ago

I'm not. Imprison her for life, but the death penalty is never acceptable as long as there's even the slightest chance of a false conviction. As long as "the system" can get it wrong, it should not be allowed to carry out irreversible punishments.

[-] BleatingZombie@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago

I get what you're saying and I can't say I disagree, but conversely:

Eat the rich

[-] Hooverx@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

communist country executes bourgeois, capitalists horrified

[-] John_McMurray@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Innocent people dying of old age in prison is also irreversible and way fucking crueler.

[-] ahornsirup@sopuli.xyz 9 points 10 months ago

You're not wrong, but at least there's a chance that they'll be released, and with therapy they might even have a normal life again some day. If you kill someone, they're dead. Nothing you can do about it beyond maybe putting an "Oops, our bad, sorry about that" plaque on their headstone.

I will also say that prisons should not be cruel. The role of prisons should be rehabilitation, protection of society from those who can't be rehabilitated, and lastly (and for once actually least importantly) punishment.

[-] John_McMurray@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

The rehabilitation line is a lie people tell themselves to feel better about being ok with extreme cruelty

[-] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 3 points 10 months ago

there are other countries who have actually worked successfully at rehabilitation rather than the US-based system of 'revenge as justice'.

lumping everyone in line with the revenge types is an ignorant, immature stance.

[-] John_McMurray@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Nah. Figures lie and liars figure. These other countries are generally homogenous with very very low poverty

[-] GnomeKat 4 points 10 months ago

i mean... abolish prisons too? Yes... I think yess :)

[-] Cosmicomical@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Yes but why just when the fate of billionaires is on the line?

[-] GnomeKat 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I just support prison abolition in general, especially here in the US where I am. The shear number of poor, poc, indigenous, and mentally ill people who get funneled into the prison system here is a travesty and just pointless cruelty. TBH i dont give a fuck about one billionaire as long as the money is taken back and she loses all her power. Though I also do not support the death penalty so this headline doesn't make me feel super comfortable.

[-] John_McMurray@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

We're not talking about billionaires, it just happened to spark the conversation

[-] danh2os@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago
[-] Thassodar@lemm.ee 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Over 9000 dong, 4% of their GDP.

[-] jwt@programming.dev 5 points 10 months ago

You really shouldn't call their P gross.

[-] Thassodar@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago

I'm just talking about how this amounts to over 4.20% of their GDP, man.

[-] Fidel_Cashflow@lemmy.ml 26 points 10 months ago

Finally, some good news!

[-] gmtom@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago
[-] lledrtx@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago
[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 8 points 10 months ago

They're not exactly known for human rights support.

On the other hand, they actually stopped a genocide in living memory, which is more than you can say for most nations.

[-] ABCDE@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

The whole country is corrupt, it's just so open and brazen. No one would be left alive if they did this to anyone guilty.

[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

According to the article, she siphoned off a lot of dong.

[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago

Giving the state the power to kill a certain class of people is a great way to get the state to reclassify anyone inconvenient as a member of that class so they can be murdered legally. With that being said, I'm unlikely to get Vietnam to eliminate the death penalty entirely or be mistaken for a corrupt billionaire so maybe this will remind the other billionaires that they're made of soft, fragile meat just like the rest of us.

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