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[-] OpenStars@startrek.website 166 points 8 months ago

It makes sense. He's actually been competent, which not many (certainly not I) quite expected, but the media hasn't reported a lot of his successes, which have been unusually deployed and quite complex to begin with. People don't understand it. Maybe they'll vote for him anyway, but it's not assured, somehow even with Trump on the other side again.

e.g.how he blocked the railway strike at Christmas to save "the economy" first and foremost at the workers expense, but then kept working afterwards to help get most if not all of their demands met (I'm not sure if they got any sick leave though). Right or wrong, in the past that would have been hailed as a "huge success", but instead we barely heard about it.

Likewise with Gaza he has tried to toe the line - we technically have obligations to fulfill there, but does genocide change that, and if so what is the process by which to do that, and is he engaging in that, or doesn't Israel have a veto anyway, so what else is he doing that we might want done?

We have depended upon our media so much, to tell us not just what happened but what it means and how to feel about it all. So with it being bought out now by billionaires... it is like our fourth branch of government has become as unreliable as Congress and the Supreme Court.

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 60 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I think the media is reporting Biden's accomplishments accurately when they happen, however nobody is really interested. The news media (particularly on TV) thrives on controversy, conflict, and violence, even if they have to exaggerate. "If it bleeds, it leads". Things working the way they ought to simply doesn't drive attention.

I often joked during the 2020 election that Biden's campaign should have been "Make Politics Boring Again". Good governance shouldn't make headlines. But there are some people who assume that if someone is out of the news, they must be irrelevant.

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[-] lutillian@sh.itjust.works 49 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Not just the media, but perhaps worse, unverified strangers on the Internet though social media. The biggest thing that pisses me off is every time I the lesser of two evils argument spouted of paired with Biden's handing of something that 100% should fall in the domain of Congress to solve. So may things that historically have been attributed to the President were ultimately created and decided on by Congress and the public attributes way more power to the President than they actually have because of it.

If we want actual support to Gaza we need to push our congressional members to provide that support. Which is laughable because congress can't even pass a bill that had bipartisan support because half of one floor bends knee to the will of a private citizen. Biden keeps having to overreach his office with executive orders and policies that aren't backed by law and as such are highly transient and subject to constitutional review allowing them too be thrown out, as well as peace time commander-in-chief powers to do things like supply airdrops or back door old equipment sales to their other countries to affected groups.

The difference between Ukraine and Gaza is that unlike Ukraine, have does not have a unified Palestinian force that the US can safely supply arms to (HAMAS has actively proven that they are not the good guys) and that we're legally obligated to supply arms to Israel, which we are not to Russia. Biden can only sit loudly at Israel stating that genocide is bad threaten that this could lead to a withdrawal of US support, but he can't actually withdraw US support. Congress needs to provide a bill for him to sign that does that.

On a side note... I'm fairly convinced that a good chunk of the rhetoric spouted to not vote for Biden likely originated from foreign sources to plant the Idea in people's minds and get them to repeat it everywhere because on the surface it feels right. The vote any vote not for Biden is a vote for Trump rhetoric probably exists for similar reasons, mostly to help reinforce the thought that both sides are the same because it's quite easily proven not true and likely increases the odds that someone it's used to convince to vote for Biden ultimately ends up either withholding their vote in protest or voting for someone else out of spite.

[-] Pan_Ziemniak@midwest.social 17 points 8 months ago

Excellent points, truly.

Esp on congressional v presidential power/responsibility. I must admit im rather guilty of this, too. Its easy to hate on our cultures authoritarian tendencies that prevade in the stupidest fucking places, and yet i still consistently think, "wheres that marjuana legislation, Joe? Why arent you passing executive orders to prevent the intellectually challeneged baboon heading Texas from busing his responsibilities to my state? Or at least offer more executive support in handling the influx of ppl? Maybe something to give out more work visas, no?

Reading this tho reminds me, most all of that is legislative tasks. weve just all been brainwashed by years of executive encroachment to where the broken parts of our system behave extra broken.

Keep fighting the good fight. Your words hit hard.

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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 36 points 8 months ago

They did get nominal sick leave. 3 days I think, which is better than the 0 they had previously, but still effectively useless.

edit FOUR sick days and the ability to convert 3 PTO days to sick days:

https://www.ibew.org/media-center/Articles/23Daily/2306/230620_IBEWandPaid

[-] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

how can anyone that age be competent

not to be mean but the mind does age it does not magically stop because your name is Biden he has reached that age

he told those rail workers they could not strike or they would lose retirement and shit

he threatened them with their livelihoods fuck that old crony he promised to raise the minimum wage and fight for us workers

he hasn't quite the opposite

Silent Genocide Joe and Prosecutor Kamala Harris are not America's saviors neither is Trump

just older people refusing to let a younger generation take the reins while cashing checks from the corporations same as Trump and making sure the younger people are disenfranchised enough to not to take a stand

fucking sick either candidate get any support with the suffering and misery they have wrought

[-] lutillian@sh.itjust.works 14 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I can't disagree with the age argument, these dinosaurs need to step aside and let the world change.

I do want to know what exactly Biden has genocided. The two groups in this world who are driving genocides are Putin's and Netanyahu's regimes. Biden has no control over them, and the only group that could enact a foreign policy to do anything here in the US is Congress. So if anyone is complicit in that, it's our "Currently Genocidal by Inaction Congress."

I get it though, doesn't roll as nicely off the tongue.

[Edit: a poster below pointed out that my joke was bad and I should feel bad. ]

Camilla was a poor choice at vp no matter how you swing it given the current progressive opinion on police.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 14 points 8 months ago

Biden has no control

He could stop sending a new shipment of the very weapons used to commit genocide with every day and a half.

It might not stop it immediately, but it would at least make it more difficult for Netanyahu's fascist apartheid regime to keep blowing the shit out of innocent civilians if they have to look elsewhere for the bombs to do so with.

Plus, there's hardly any way to be more clearly an accomplice to war crimes than insisting on sending weapons to be used to commit war crimes regardless of congressional approval.

[-] lutillian@sh.itjust.works 11 points 8 months ago

Biden is legally obligated by treaty to provide Israel with arms. Not doing so would give those maniacs in the house actual reason to impeach

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[-] fireweed@lemmy.world 115 points 8 months ago

I'd be furious too, having such incompetent, out-of-touch advisors. This article alludes to it but others have gone more in-depth: Biden's advisors keep telling him the economy is great, the problem is messaging: the American people just haven't heard how great it is. Telling people struggling to pay their bills every month that they're better off than they were four years ago isn't messaging, it's gaslighting. His advisors should be telling him the truth, that the economy is only good on paper, that while the "haves" are living large the "have nots" are not only struggling, their ranks are quickly growing. Don't get me wrong, anyone who votes for Trump because they think he'll do better at economic issues is a moron, but history shows that a lot of people are going to go this route come November at the current pace of things. And Biden's advisors are just as moronic if they don't understand this.

[-] TIMMAY@lemmy.world 13 points 8 months ago

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[-] Subverb@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

This guy thinks.

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[-] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 105 points 8 months ago

Considering it’s him or “bloodbath for the country” McGee, I think we are all angry and anxious about it.

[-] Stern@lemmy.world 42 points 8 months ago

Getting real tired of choosing between bad and worse, and knowing full well if I don't support bad I'll get stuck with worse because of the duopoly.

[-] Omegamanthethird@lemmy.world 81 points 8 months ago

Outside of Gaza, I think Biden has done a surprisingly good job. A lot of shit landed on his plate and he's dealt with it better than most presidents would have.

[-] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 48 points 8 months ago

And while he may not be as progressive as many progressives would like him to be, I feel he's been more progressive than most ever expected him to be...which is pleasantly surprising, since it's not a course he had to take for political reasons.

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[-] rayyy@lemmy.world 12 points 8 months ago

If people really followed Biden's attempts to rein in Bibi, they would have a LOT more appreciation of his efforts too. Netanyahu is a madman yet Israel still needs protection.

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[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 53 points 8 months ago

I would be too, seeing how effective the anti-intelligence efforts on the American public by the Republicans were.

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[-] toast@retrolemmy.com 49 points 8 months ago

"Why don't voters see that genocide is in our nation's best interest?"

"Why don't voters care more about stock prices than food prices?"

Unlike the orange baboon, he means well. He's just so steeped in neoliberalism that he thinks he knows better than we do what we need.

What I want is a president who cares more about Americans than America.

[-] OpenStars@startrek.website 30 points 8 months ago

Biden may not care more about average Americans than America, but he at least cares more about Americans than Trump does.

[-] toast@retrolemmy.com 18 points 8 months ago

Well, yeah. Trump doesn't seem to care about either

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 10 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

he at least cares more about Americans than Trump does

That's like saying "at least he's more adamant about minimizing civilian casualties than Netanyahu is"

While absolutely true, it's a textbook example of damning with extremely faint praise.

[-] Brokkr@lemmy.world 27 points 8 months ago

If you want a president that cares more about Americans than America, then you'll love Joe Biden. If we compare republican to Democrat options of the past, you'd have to go back to Bush senior before you could even find a competitor to Biden. Before that, I think you're back to Eisenhower.

Biden does the best he can, but the president's powers are limited. Even when he tries to exercise them faithfully, he's stopped by the republican supreme court.

To reduce those complex issues to single sentence, overly simplified questions is willfully disengenous.

[-] toast@retrolemmy.com 17 points 8 months ago

No one is stopping Biden from ending aid to Israel - not congress, not the supreme court, no one. It is only this administration's estimation that doing so would lessen our influence in the region that is preventing it.

Biden is angry and frustrated that the American people don't value retaining and extending regional power in the middle east as much as he does. He cares about us, but doesn't want us to get in the way. Henry Kissinger may be dead, but he still has a lot of influence.

[-] NoIWontPickAName@kbin.earth 11 points 8 months ago

I know what’s best! Why won’t you peasants just listen?!?!

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[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

Unlike the orange baboon, he means well. He's just so steeped in neoliberalism that he thinks he knows better than we do what we need.

Probably spot on.

[-] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 39 points 8 months ago

Thanks to the electoral college system that remains in place: Biden won 2020 narrowly. Far more narrowly for anyone to be happy or comfortable, least of all Biden.

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[-] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 37 points 8 months ago

The media would rather see a dictator be elected than be accused of not fully reporting on Biden’s age.

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[-] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 20 points 8 months ago

I know, he needs to step up his game. I want to vote for Dark Brandon.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 19 points 8 months ago

Many people do not start paying to the general until August. A disturbingly large number of people don't know about any of the incredibly heinous shit Trump has been saying.

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[-] verdantbanana@lemmy.world 16 points 8 months ago

81 is too old

my grandfather is this age and would not want him running anything and when reach that age do not think be able to run much either unless healthcare gets some futuristic improvement

Biden is no different than any other human on the planet except they give him exponentially better healthcare than you while he dangles universal health in front of your face for two elections and never putting out

Americans should not bend over and take either option Biden or Trump

Some of us like myself are not allowed to vote because of policies and laws that have been crafted by politicians over the years with Biden being one of those politicians

Biden's supporters are willing to jump as blindly off a cliff as the Trumpers

We as Americans need to take stand before we are not able to

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 23 points 8 months ago

Please name the candidate that has a significant chance of winning that you think people should vote for.

[-] Hypx@fedia.io 13 points 8 months ago

You don’t sound American at all.

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[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 13 points 8 months ago

Ugh at least try to do surreptitious misinformation

[-] 3volver@lemmy.world 11 points 8 months ago

Abolish the electoral college. Popular vote now. If Biden wins the popular vote and loses the election we're going to have serious problems.

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