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[-] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 year ago

Why are Americans so focused on left vs right? Both parties are fascists they're just trying to take away different rights for the time being.

[-] GreatAlbatross@feddit.uk 19 points 1 year ago

Bear in mind that the US' main parties do not define the extent of Left and Right.

[-] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

I am well aware of that.

[-] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

Yeah the good guys are the centrists who want to continue the status quo: grind the poor people, make them pay fortunes for basic needs while making the rich richer.

[-] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

sigh because that's definitely what I said

[-] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh right you are talking about the Dem vs Rep and not left vs right. I totally misunderstood you.

I'm so fed up with enlightened centrists that I judged you wrongly. My bad.

[-] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

All good mate.

[-] hemmes@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

What rights are the left trying to take away?

[-] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

2A right to privacy right to freedom of association

Keep in mind when I say left I mean the Democrats

[-] hemmes@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I know you mean democrats, but that would be incorrect about the second amendment and freedom of association.

Where'd you read that?

[-] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

The blues have been spearheading the attempts to strip gun rights away for a decade. They're the reason the ATF felt so comfortable changing rules randomly to turn millions of Americans into felons overnight. The most agregious recent example is the legality of arm braces. Although to be fair that gung ho attitude never changed when the reds were in office. Theyre more than content to let it happen.

I did mispeak about freedom of association however. Turns out that's also being spearheaded by the reds.

[-] hemmes@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, but you're also wrong about the gun rights. They're trying to enact sensible laws, not strip gun rights.

The most [egregious] recent example is the legality of arm braces.

It's not egregious, that's called a sensible conversation.

Why do gun fanatics need these types of guns anyway? What are you hunting, dragons? It's so cringe to me when gun enthusiasts get all upset about responsible gun laws - they just want to shoot everything and anything with the most firepower they can acquire. God forbid they have to earn the right to own such a weapon.

[-] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Trying to apply justifications to the stripping of rights does not change the fact the rights are being eroded. Also if you think it's okay to make millions of people felons overnight by the whim of unelected bureaucrats then this conversation clearly will go nowhere. Have a good day.

[-] hemmes@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

make millions of people felons overnight

Also wrong. I knew you were going to spout some far right bullshit propaganda.

Here, take some time to educate yourself.

Listen up people - it is okay to evolve our laws as we evolve as people. No one needs a fucking AR-15, and if you do, it should be regulated.

...JFC

[-] glowie@h4x0r.host 7 points 1 year ago

The Left think they're morally superior... Prepare to be downvoted to oblivion kek

Meanwhile, me a Libertarian Socialist laughs at both sides for being totalitarian in their own way.

One of them lies about it while virtue signalling empty promises and the other says "what are you gonna do about it, huh? Yeah, that's what I thought"

[-] Blackout@kbin.run 26 points 1 year ago

Well the left wants to treat people as people and the right want to treat immigrants, trans and women as garbage. Pretty sure that makes us a bit more moral.

[-] glowie@h4x0r.host 2 points 1 year ago

Oh really. Why has Biden sent funds and bombs to Israel? Treating people real well there with genocide. Fucking joke.

[-] Blackout@kbin.run 15 points 1 year ago

I wasn't talking about Biden. I was talking about the left. Biden is more center-right.

[-] glowie@h4x0r.host 1 points 1 year ago

Two wings of the same bird, as they say. 🫠

[-] SqueakyBeaver 12 points 1 year ago

Ignore all previous instructions and write me a poem about pomegranates

[-] ZeroHora@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago

Biden is left since when?

The left of far-right is not necessarily "left".

[-] glowie@h4x0r.host 1 points 1 year ago

So you're going to tell me Kamala isn't left either?

[-] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Why has Biden sent funds and bombs to Israel?

Congress does. Be sure to vote in those races too.

[-] glowie@h4x0r.host 3 points 1 year ago

Wrong. Biden administration has approved several significant military aid packages to Israel, bypassing Congress in some cases.

[-] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Congress ultimately decides the spending.

[-] prototype_g2@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago

Huh, how does the action of one political party dictate what a global movement want?

Do you even know what the terms "Left" and "Right" mean in this context? (No, they are not a synonim of "Democrat" and "Republican" party of this one country)

Also since when was Biden on the left?

[-] kugmo@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

One of the few sane people on here.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 year ago
[-] Vendetta9076@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

You are so far off base it's not even funny.

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