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The former president and first lady threw their weight behind the presumptive Democratic nominee

Barack and Michelle Obama have endorsed Kamala Harris for the Democratic nomination for president, sharing the news in a joint phone call.

A video released by the campaign suggests the former president and first lady called Harris on Thursday while the vice president was in Houston, where she addressed the American Federation of Teachers and received a briefing on recovery efforts following Hurricane Beryl. 

“We called to say, Michelle and I couldn’t be prouder to endorse you and do everything we can to get you through this election and into the Oval Office,” Barack Obama is heard telling Harris in a 55-second video of the call. 

“This is going to be historic,” Michelle Obama tells Harris.

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[-] Steve@communick.news 15 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

This is frustrating. She couldn't handle a primary run 5 years ago. Now the entire Party is just lining up as if she's unquestionably the greatest candidate the world has to offer.

Prior to this, the only Democrat less popular than her, was Biden.

Nobody knows what she'll actually do in office because she's only ever said or supported whatever will help her at the moment.

EDIT: Thank you all. I had a good time today debating, discussing, reading, even occasionally learning.
Some of you engaged well, I upvoted. Some of you didn't. I rarely downvote though, and never did here.
I appreciate you all, and hope you all have a good one.
Even Kamala Harris. I hope to see her succeed beyond all our expectations. Even if mine are quite low.

[-] ImADifferentBird 54 points 3 months ago

Biden couldn't handle a primary run in 2008, but he killed in 2020.

Times change. Circumstances change. People change. And if the enthusiasm that has come out over the past week, both from her and from the party base, is any indication, Harris in 2024 is in a much better place than she was in 2020.

[-] Orbituary@lemmy.world 24 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Biden didn't kill it in 2020. Bernie won the first few states, so the DNC freaked out and pushed the other candidates to drop out and endorse Joe. After that, the media lined up to declare him the presumptive nominee. The DNC hates progressives.

Kamala was a better speaker than Joe in 2020. Her comments about being one of the black kids on the busses aimed at Biden was accurate and scathing. But she followed the party mandate and bowed out.

Why is everyone's memory so short about these things?

She's a far sight better than Trump or Biden.

[-] Zipitydew@sh.itjust.works 19 points 3 months ago

Bernie won a couple states that never help determine the election. Then Biden won by a lot in swing states. If Bernie won swing states it would be different. He didn't. His appeal isn't and wasn't as good in the specific places the Presidency is won.

It sucks because I picked him in both primaries. But the reality is Biden had broader appeal where it mattered. Any Dem candidate is going get 170 EC votes along the coasts. It's between the coasts where the election is won. And Biden did better in all those places.

[-] Orbituary@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

To my point, he was doing better until the others started to drop out. But that's all academic now. My opinion hardly matters, but I stand by my belief that the DNC hates progressive politics and would rather lose than support a populist progressive.

[-] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Kamala is apparently more progressive than we knew, her voting record was pretty close to Bernie's in the Senate. By being the vp and then Biden dropping out we seem to have gotten a more prog candidate than we could have otherwise?

[-] Zipitydew@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 months ago

Pete won Iowa, Bernie won New Hampshire and Nevada. Everyone (6 total candidates) was still in for South Carolina which Biden dominated. Pete and Amy dropped out at that point. But Bloomberg joined and Warren was still in. Gabbard was too but we all know was a joke candidate.

Biden was against 4 options going into Super Tuesday. Biden won 10 of the 15 primaries on Super Tuesday. Came in 2nd for the couple he didn't win. After that is when Bloomberg got chased back out, and Warren dropped out realizing she was stripping votes from Bernie.

Bernie was ahead for all of 3 weeks. And at that point only 3 states were in. What truly happened in that time is a lot of media spin. Because they had nothing much to report on and kept belaboring over almost nothing of consequence. By the time my chance landed here in Illinois it was obvious Biden had it in the bag. Bernie dropped out himself only a couple weeks after.

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[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago

Honestly, after his failed 1987 primary challenge, I'm surprised he ever got back on his feet in terms of politics at all.

He plagiarized a speech by a British politician and got caught, he was involved in a scandal involving his law school grades and he lied about his participation in the civil rights movement (or at least greatly exaggerated it).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden_1988_presidential_campaign#Summer_1987

On top of that, after dropping out, he had two brain aneurysms.

It's pretty amazing he got elected president in 2020.

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[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 25 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Oh. Look. It's the exact message we all knew was coming. "Good thing we got rid of Biden, but now we have another terrible candidate."

[-] Steve@communick.news 6 points 3 months ago

Yes! Exactly!
All the Democrats seem capable of, are terrible presidential candates. Obama seemed like a great candate for a ... Change. But turned out to be quite mid.

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 10 points 3 months ago

You know, obviously I disagree with you. But I respect you for not deleting your comments and for continuing to engage earnestly with people who were upset by it. I understand your disappointment with not ever getting a president who really moves the ball forward.

Until a progressive candidate can get elected in the swing states or there is a massive shift in the Overton window, I don't think you're going to get what you want. I'd like the world to be a better place, too. Shit, depending on the next 4 years, it's likely I won't live to see a liberal Supreme Court again, let alone tear down the corporate capture of our government.

Kamala has proven she can inspire people and that she can win. And I said before Biden even stepped down, if he goes, it has to be her or we risk losing black voters whom we can't win without. Now she's bringing them in droves. And the more registered Democrats, the greater our chances of really moving the country left in a meaningful way. She's the right choice, whether she's the best choice or not.

Anyway, be well.

[-] cupcakezealot 24 points 3 months ago

she was in a primary with biden in the center and about 15 other progressives on the left. she was always popular; it's just bernie occupied the left flank of the primary and everyone else was crumbs.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago

She was in the Senate. She has a voting record. Go look at it.

[-] prole 18 points 3 months ago

You know she was a Senator, right? You know those votes are public record, right?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

You know who else couldn't handle a primary run (twice) before they were elected president? Joe Biden.

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[-] BlackPenguins@lemmy.world 12 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Biden was in several primaries. Only recently did he get enough traction. Just Obama was more popular. That's actually a common pattern, that eventual Presidents had to lose a few primaries to get where they are today.

[-] Xanis@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

Alright. Here's your chance:

Who would you choose?

Be prepared to defend your answer.

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[-] TheDemonBuer@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Nobody knows what she'll actually do in office

I don't have any reason to believe Harris would do anything radically different than what Biden would have done. That makes her far from ideal, in my opinion, but nonetheless still much better than Trump. That's the only thing the Democrats really have going for them at this point: they remain better than the only other viable political alternative. Admittedly, that is a LOW bar, in my opinion, but that's where we are in America right now. I have given up trying to make America the way I want to be, and am instead focused primarily on harm reduction.

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[-] Plopp@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Prior to this, the only Democrat less popular than her, was Biden.

Well at least she's more popular than Biden then.

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