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[-] flamingo_pinyata@sopuli.xyz 104 points 1 year ago

For real, dead animals taste amazing when you grill them

[-] threeduck@aussie.zone 34 points 1 year ago

You should try dog if you get the chance, Elwood dog farm has a low impact factory farm where you can buy Labrador cuts and some gamier breeds if they're in stock.

[-] linkhidalgogato@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

i know u are saying that because u think that would be bad but there is literally nothing wrong with eating dogs, also cats are good too.

[-] threeduck@aussie.zone 5 points 1 year ago

Great, so we agree no animals are ethically off limits to kill and consume. How about... Some of the more simple minded human populace? Like, if through IQ testing we find the bottom 5% of humans, and (without eating brain and spine, avoiding prion diseases) feed them to the masses? They're probably not terribly much smarter than dogs, and they could help curb food shortages. Or are humans off limits?

[-] linkhidalgogato@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Thats a fine slippery slope argument u got there and like always its complete shit, people are people and animals are animals.

[-] threeduck@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago

I'm not suggesting that animal eating leads to cannibalism, which WOULD be a slippery slope.

I'm suggesting that if meat eaters are okay with killing and eating animals, why not the human animal? I probe because the line drawn in the sand is unclear with meat eaters.

Also, humans are animals. This is primary school stuff here.

What separates eating animals from eating people for you?

[-] Jolteon@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago

The fact that you are eating your own species, which is cannibalism.

[-] threeduck@aussie.zone 3 points 1 year ago

Right, but what's inherently wrong with eating your own species? I mean, I know, I think any sentient life shouldn't be killed for my pleasure. But with your logic that some species are okay to kill and eat, and others aren't, I'm wanting to know why those others aren't.

Ignoring "societal norms", as they've been used to commit genocide, slavery, and all manner of atrocities - why is cannibalism logically, in your opinion, bad?

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[-] Angry_Autist@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

My concern with eating dogs and cats (which I have) is how they were fed. There isn't a lot of health safety concern with those kinds of underground meat sources can sometimes feed dead livestock back to the populace and that can cause all numbers of prion and parasitic concerns.

[-] Jolteon@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago

TBH, I'd expect them to be a bit gamey, especially cats.

[-] GroundedGator@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I mean I could but I have a nearly limitless supply of rabbits in my yard. Their fur makes great gifts. My plants love the compost I get from everything else. As a bonus the blood compost deters rabbits from eating my cabbage.

Funny thing, I can't seem to find any type of vegan certification that is concerned with the use of animal byproducts or waste in fertilizer. A few specifically say they do not check fertilizer.

[-] threeduck@aussie.zone 8 points 1 year ago

Don't let perfection be the enemy of good. If everyone stopped eating animals, there'd be no surplus of blood and bone for fertilisers, and other plant based by-products would fill the space.

As for the rabbits, I actually have a small Australian shepherd that runs through my lawn chasing the wallabies that meander by, I've been meaning to trap it and humanely slaughter it, the blue coat would make a great gift! And if the owner comes by looking for Bella, I could trap him and humanely slaughter him too. He looks a bit simple, so it seems ethical to me? He'd make good compost, that's for true.

[-] JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Actually a lot of organic farms rely on blood and bone meal, manure and fish emulsion fertilizers. They're inexpensive as they're byproducts of other industries and are very good for plants.
When I worked in an organic greenhouse I often wondered about how vegans would feel about farmers using animal based fertilizers. We definitely told people what we used, as we sold those products, but no one ever said anything about it. I guess vegans can't control that so maybe it's a nonissue unless they grow their own food and use seaweed based fertilizer(more expensive) instead?

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[-] x4740N@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Knock it off with the trolling nonsense

It's pretty obvious you're a troll

We are well aware of the dog meat troll tactic from vеgаns

[-] threeduck@aussie.zone 16 points 1 year ago

Hypothetical moral questions posed genuinely is not trolling. If you're okay with eating cows and pigs, why is eating dogs considered trolling?

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[-] roguetrick@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Listen brother, I eat meat but if you go into a vegan post and get into an argument about veganism, you're not being trolled, you're the troll.

[-] Serinus@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

It doesn't help that the vegans are right. The meat industry is a nightmare, terrible for the environment, and pretty bad for our health.

It's insane that most Americans eat meat every day.

If I could put 100% tax on meat tomorrow I would, but that's political suicide, so it'll never happen. It'd be easier to adjust than you think. There are plenty of delicious vegetarian options, and it'd be a lot easier to choose those if they were more common.

I eat meat because it's culturally acceptable, delicious, ubiquitous, and I don't believe I can make a noticeable difference. But that doesn't mean I think it's right.

[-] Objection@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

I don’t believe I can make a noticeable difference.

Not eating meat won't change the systemic problems but it will mean fewer animals will be subject to the industry. Over the course of a lifetime, the number of animals you can save adds up.

Also it's a good habit to transfer thoughts and beliefs into actions.

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[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Same for dead plants and mushrooms tho.

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