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[-] TwiddleTwaddle 15 points 4 months ago

Please, enlighten me about what you think liberalism means. In my view (as an anarchist) liberalism is at best ineffective at preventing fascism from taking over. It enables colonialism and imperialism, and offers no solution to the horrors of capitalism. Liberal ideology is one of state violence and compromise with literal fascists.

[-] quantenzitrone@lemmings.world 7 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality, right to private property and equality before the law. Liberals espouse various and often mutually warring views depending on their understanding of these principles but generally support private property, market economies, individual rights (including civil rights and human rights), liberal democracy, secularism, rule of law, economic and political freedom, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, and freedom of religion, Liberalism is frequently cited as the dominant ideology of modern history.

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[-] TwiddleTwaddle 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Did... Did you really just copy Wikipedia's page on liberalism here? You think that's conductive of a meaningful conversation? Try reading a book and maybe you'll be able to imagine a better world than what the ruling class has decided for us. A Brief History of Neoliberalism by David Harvey might be a good place to start. It's often taught in university but is well written and accessible compared to some of the more lofty rhetoric you might find.

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[-] quantenzitrone@lemmings.world 1 points 4 months ago

neoliberalism isn't liberalism tho

[-] TwiddleTwaddle 3 points 4 months ago

In popular discourse it generally is.

[-] Eldritch@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Liberal hence Libertarianism is definitialy a shortening of Economic Liberal. What you're quoting is the colloquial/slang/propaganda definition. Modern "liberals" are absolutely better than classic liberals. Simply by virtue of their tepid support for social safety nets. That isn't their failing. Their failing is that despite being "liberals" they're still, and more importantly more committed to economic liberalism than they are social investment. And as such, eager to reach across the aisle to normalize and work with bigots, proto fascists, and full fledged fascists. Just to appear bipartisan.

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

Yeah. That's pretty spot on. Personally I'd also put more emphasis on social and economic justice, but to achieve these I consider the human rights, representative democracy, free and fair elections and the rule of law absolutely indispensable preconditions.

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