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In 2008 no one expected roe to be overturned, it wasn’t even remotely a thought. The promise of the Obama administration was healthcare reform, which they burned all their political capital on.
Additionally, the democrats never had their super majority because of the GOP challenging a senate seat/refusing to seat them and Al Franken’s subsequent departure.
Why would they craft a bill to protect against that possibility if no one expected it?
We thought we had time and could do other things like health care for sick kids.
We didn’t realize what enormous fucking dipshit assholes the republiQans were fine with being.
Were "we" asleep during all eight years of Bush?
War for oil, yes. That we expected. Crimes against humanity, sure. Making a woman’s body the property of the state, just right-out; not as much. And every confirmation hearing they’d ask: what about Roe? And they’d all sheepishly whisper yeah we know it’s settled law, etc.
Besides, if they did it - just out-and-out overturned fucking Roe v Wade can you imagine the shitstorm they’d face? Half the country would demand their heads on pikes!
. . . Waitaminit . . . Statue of Liberty . . . gasp! That was our planet!!
And "we" couldn't even do that. Just gave enormous subsidies to private insurance instead. Did nothing to control the price of medical care so that nowadays we have people dying because the price of insulin exploded (just one example). All because Democrats had to compromise with conservatives even with what should have been a fillibuster-proof majority.
Huge populations of people who couldn’t see doctors before, now could. And it was moving mountains to get that. Yeah, it was Romneycare, that’s what we could get at the end of the day. Want H4A? Me too. Let’s vote in overwhelming majorities then ride them until they deliver.
That’s why, when our precious progressiver-than-yous bitch about everything not being a literal paradise and therefore they can’t help progress I want to utter unspeakable unholy curses. It takes a lot of work. And it’s twice as hard when both the so-called-left and the right are against it.
Democrats had an overwhelming when they passed obamacare.it was conservative Democrats who refused to vote for single payer. If Democrats had fallen in line and voted with their party it would have passed without any Republican votes needed, but the Blue Dogs said "no".
Of course it's difficult. It's especially difficult when the party that claims to be progressive refuses to pass progressive policies when they have the opportunity to.
50%+1 is all that's required to overturn the filibuster. Pelosi chose to let the blue-dog democrats block single-payer because they were getting shittons of money from the insurance companies.
Name the "Blue Dogs" who said no.
(Also, please define Blue Dogs)
Let me Google that for you
Look particularly at the section "Role in the passage of the ACA".
Yeah, you’re right. republiQans killed it but “Blue Dogs” failed us.
As has been the case many times. To be fair, that’s a 30-year old ‘coalition’ and being active in choosing the candidates isn’t prevented by any means.
Why did progressives craft the Green New Deal if they knew it wasn’t going to ever pass?
Also it was in response to states passing restrictions. They were not worried about the Supreme Court overturning roe. Two different concerns .
In bargaining you initially overshoot so that you have room to negotiate down and you can still achieve at least some of what you want. The Freedom of Choice Act is a different situation where it's defending a right that already exists.
Existed*
Did you not watch the four videos I linked. He specifically talks about roe.
The healthcare plan came from Mitt Romney, so how they "burned all political capital" on that is gaslighting.
Google obama filibuster proof
No I did not watch 4 videos in their entirety just to respond to a comment.
Yes we all know it was Romney-care. The democrats still burned their capital on it. I’m not sure why that doesn’t work for you. It’s not like any of that stopped the GOP from campaigning on it for a decade.