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[-] Kiernian@lemmy.world 78 points 3 months ago

Holy deep fried frankenfuck will the Democrats NEVER LEARN?!?!?!?!

AFTER!

You talk about guns AFTER the election!

What in the actual pogostickingpopejohnpaul is he THINKING?!?!?

The optics are 1000% awful here.

Uvalde wasn't enough, but a potshot at the planet's most notorious living felon is?

[-] zewm@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago

Lose the election speed run any %

I’m 100% sure Dems are actively self sabotaging their re-election.

There is no way the entire party cannot read a fucking room. This has to be on purpose at this point.

[-] Ragnarok314159@sopuli.xyz 5 points 3 months ago

P2025 will increase their stock portfolio value so they can dump it all and make millions.

Then add some more taxes on the middle class to pay for it.

[-] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 months ago

They get more fundraising dollars when Trump's in power too. For the dems who are in states that'll never vote them out, they'll make a killing from a second Trump term and they're rich enough to be insulated from just about all his decisions that fuck the rest of us over.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago

To be fair there's large swaths of the party that want him to step down. It's his advisors and aligned leadership that insist on running him and these policies no matter what.

[-] bufalo1973@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago

A though has just crossed my mind: what if the advisors want him to be there this way and wait till the last moment to say "you know what? Biden steps down [because of his health] and X runs in his place" so Democrat voters can say "we dodged the bullet".

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

That moment is now. And that's not really how politics usually works. It would be incredibly reckless to do such a thing.

[-] bufalo1973@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago

I didn't say it wasn't reckless😁

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

lol, but political advisors are notoriously risk averse.

[-] bufalo1973@lemmy.ml 2 points 3 months ago

... If they see something as a risk.

[-] crusa187@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 months ago

Biden is simply the worst possible candidate, perhaps the only prominent Dem who can lose to Trump. And he’s determined to prove it.

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

He's trying to motivate the progressives. His campaign has finally figured out that progressives aren't turning out in the swing states. After over a year of warnings. This, the rent thing, (which progressives immediately identified as entirely too high and a gift to landlords everywhere), and the exponential increase in supposed policy lists. (Which like any gift horse, shouldn't be checked too thoroughly lest the corporate subsidies they hide shine through)

What we really need him to understand is the problem is Israel. Any of this would have worked a year ago. But many progressives are not willing to support the genocide in Israel just to buy themselves comfort.

[-] Asidonhopo@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago

Most of the progressives I know are moving toward gun ownership rather than away, out of despair

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

I know that, you know that, but he's so disconnected that he didn't get what would happen to his ratings when he quashed the most consequential strike action in my lifetime.

[-] Delta_V@lemmy.world 6 points 3 months ago

the left don't give fuck about gun control - the far left actively oppose it

its the center right, pearl clutching, NIMBY, yuppy liberals who use it for virtue signaling, but even they won't be budged on who they're going to vote for based on the lip service about guns

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

The center left/right is Biden's base too, they're already sure to show up. But I don't think it's accurate to say the Left, like progressives, don't care. They very much care, the ones further to the left want to arm up and the ones closer to the center want to ban guns. It's an interesting intersection to look at but it pretty much comes down to how threatened they do or do not feel.

[-] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Are you suggesting democrats will somehow fool voters into thinking they are agnostic about guns?

[-] Kiernian@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago

No, nor should they try, nor should they stick with their current seemingly nonsensical policy ideas about guns.

The "gun problem" as it stands is really more of a symptom of our mental health crisis, our ridiculously confrontational "news" cycle, and a number of other HUMAN factors that aren't going to be solved by banning a particular model of gun, though and no one seems to want to hear that.

Screeching "Ban the right's favorite model of toy" right before an election is beyond tone deaf, and an incredibly dumb move politically that won't do squat except mobilize the NRA voters to vote the other way, which we DO NOT NEED with democracy in this country at stake.

I can personally count multiple handfuls of coworkers and acquaintances who might have voted for him that will now vote trump or stay away from the polls over this.

[-] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

No, nor should they try, nor should they stick with their current seemingly nonsensical policy ideas about guns.

I can't decide if I'm amazed, impressed, or utterly disgusted that the "stick to their guns" play on words was right there and you didn't go for it.

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