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I don't understand this weird American obsession with flag. I was looking at some photos of Trump's rallies. Flags everywhere - on shirts, hats, glasses etc. And this bizarre cult of the flag - "it cannot touch the ground" etc.

At the end of the day the flag is just a piece of cloth. If you worship any flag or take offense to any flag, you need to get a life.

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[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

The national flag. What a weird American obsession.

[-] FelixCress@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

In the UK we call them "flag shaggers" and they are laughing stock.

If you are not trolling and you genuinely don't see the difference between occasional flag use and everyday cult typical for the USA and for the far right in other countries, you may be even slower than you appear from your comments here.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You seem unaware you're drunking on yourself here by parroting me.

Zealots are the problems, not the entire population, as I've said.

You're not one of those "readers", huh?

Did you know that someone lapping you doesn't mean you're ahead of them?

You should really try again, that was embarrassing for you.

Real funny on this side, though.

[-] FelixCress@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Zealots are the problems, not the entire population, as I've said.

You are not the sharpest tool in the box, are you?

In other nations flag cult is limited usually to the far right. Everyone else is using flags sporadically - football events for example.

In the USA flag cult is an everyday occurrence applicable to the most of the population: flags in classrooms, on houses, everywhere. With their bizzare customs "not touching the ground" and other shit. Cult of a piece of cloth.

Do you get it now? If not try to read again. Slowly.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm so curious why you think repeating what I said about extremists being the problem and explicitly agreeing with me makes you such a "sharp tool"?

You think the US is the only country that doesn't want their flag touch the ground? Please, list the countries you think prefer their flag to be flown in the dirt.

You are comedically ignorant.

It's flattering, but If you want to wade into this argument to prove me wrong you'll have to

  1. stop agreeing with my thesis
  2. get any of your details correct
[-] FelixCress@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Fuckin hell, don't forget to breathe while you are typing 🙄

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

If you are forgetting to breathe while you're typing and still think you're ahead of the curve, I've diagnosed your problem as cerebral hypoxia.

It would definitely explain your trouble here.

the issue is that even British flag shaggers have nothing on the crazy level muricans take this to.

But that's not saying I disagree with you.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I doubt that one group of flag extremists is less crazy than another.

I think it's easy to conflate different groups like Christian nationalists or peppers or the KKK with jingoistic idiots because a lot of them fly flags, but it's in no way an accurate critique of an entire population any more than someone assuming that everyone in Spain is a fascist because some people who wave the Spanish flag are fascists.

I didn't say anything about any groups being crazy.

Jeezus christ English is hard. 🤦‍♂️

the LEVEL. The LEVEL is "crazy", which means "extremely high". The amount of flag love shown by the most flag obsessed Brit isn't as high as the love shown by muricans.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

wow. You are not a native English speaker at all, are you?

"Shown" in this context means "expressed".

It's painfully obvious you've never been to the USA.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You:

"Jeezus Christ English is hard."

Also you:

"wow. You are not a native English speaker at all, are you?"

Hilarious, keep talking.

I need to learn more from your superior command of the language.

[-] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 2 points 1 year ago

I’m as far from a flag shagger as you’ll get; but slapping the union flag on the roof of a Mini isn’t about patriotism, it’s about the selling point of how the UK, and specifically London, was the epicentre of cool in the ‘60s. In this case, the flag is merely a design that represents something else.

This isn’t running it up a pole every morning to prove how much you love your country.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Preaching to the choir.

Extremists are the problem, not cars.

One of their points is that only Americans have branded their clothing and accessories with the flag; those examples show that isn't true.

[-] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah, true. But two of your examples appear to be sporting events, where it’s very, very common to find people waving their national flags. That’s not really product branding, that’s just how it is.

[-] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Preaching to the choir, that's just how it is.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Gotta tell ya, dude- it's actually no different in the U.S. You'll see our flag on all of those products and more:

It's just that the people who throw big fits about the flag (who also use things like flag napkins) don't realize the hypocrisy. They will happily eat greasy fried chicken off of that plate and wipe the grease off of their mouths with that napkin and wad it up and throw both of them in the trash will then turn around and talk about someone disrespecting the flag.

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