The major corporations will come. what then? (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 year ago by Falsesnoo@lemmy.world to c/lemmyworld@lemmy.world

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it won't take long for big companies to come knocking, trying to take over our communities. what's the plan of action then? do we have to fear suing?

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[-] manitcor@lemmy.intai.tech 11 points 1 year ago

this is why its important to eventually move the instance to the edge, its cool to do federation at this level now but there is too much liability for everyone longterm to have these chokepoints. If everyone is running the software themselves and we are all just sending encrypted messages to eachother over the internet it becomes very difficult to stop. This is one of the advantages P2P has over federation. However you do get a perf hit doing this. We need a middle ground.

[-] Alatain@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Definitely. P2P is the way to go, but has its costs. It would be really good to see a semi-federated/P2P hybrid or some other architecture that allows some of the best of both worlds.

[-] manitcor@lemmy.intai.tech 3 points 1 year ago

Is this what element does? You go through the encryption ceremony with someone in a DM, it prob still goes through the server but there is no reason that it could not go to P2P mode once the certificate exchange has completed.

[-] Not_Leader@fedia.io 2 points 1 year ago

matrix' p2p system is planning on doing something akin to making the client also the server and having a universal account system or something like that

[-] Alatain@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I will honestly have to look into it more. It seemed interesting, but I have not done a deep dive into how it works.

[-] manitcor@lemmy.intai.tech 3 points 1 year ago

ive been on it for about 2 years but only use it a little bit, ill be firing up a server for my instance this week. you can do even stronger encryption and run bots to your hearts content with your own server.

[-] Alatain@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

What do you use it for?

[-] manitcor@lemmy.intai.tech 2 points 1 year ago

end-to-end encrypted chat rooms mainly. always been a supporter of federated systems, though was not sure if these were going to catch.

its essentially fediverse's version of discord with better privacy options.

[-] planish@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

But you still either have to have each person ship their posts to everyone who wants to see them, direct, or else you have someone out there gasp operating a social media service without a license. And who knows who could be 12 and in Utah.

[-] manitcor@lemmy.intai.tech 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

people need to learn to PKI, i can't be assed to figure everything out for people, its not like its not all published out there. you want to be the unbiased processor, get to deploying. you are on the wrong network btw.