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[-] audiomodder 95 points 4 months ago

You want the actual answer? Because the Democratic Party has spent the last decade torpedoing non-establishment candidates. They killed off other candidates even running in this primary, and shut down several primaries entirely. Why would we waste our time?

And let’s be honest, let’s say that now the DNC appoints a new candidate, like they legally can do, it’s not going to be an AOC or someone even slightly to the left like Warren. It’s going to be another neoliberal like Buttigeig who will continue to Biden’s legacy of absolute mediocrity and screwing over the American people in the name of “freedom”.

[-] crusa187@lemmy.ml 17 points 4 months ago

This is 100% correct.

Small thing to add - we’re also in the midst of a devastating heat wave across most of the US at this moment. Taking to the streets isn’t exactly an accessible option right now, but anyone who has been remotely engaged in online discourse should be well aware of voters’ discontent with Biden and the status quo. They certainly won’t be discussing it on MSNBC however.

[-] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Your comment illustrates how our broken news system is the reason why four months is an insufficient runway for candidate policy clarity.

How do you consider Buttigieg a neoliberal? He wants to remove financial lobbying and stock trading permissions from Congress, create a nine Justice SCOTUS with three Democrat nominated Justices, three Republican, and three voted in by the previous six, his campaign raised $80M from small donations, and he endorsed the Green New Deal.

Just because he’s not as progressive as AOC or Bernie, doesn’t mean he’s not a big step in the right direction.

[-] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 14 points 4 months ago

Thinking back to 2019 iircc the only Democrat candidate of the ±15 that was more conservative than Biden/Harris was Bloomberg. -I guess you could also argue Gabbard but she opted to go a different direction altogether. Regardless, a lot of Democrat voters seem to be projecting their values onto Biden without evaluating him as he is and always has been. He's never been particularly progressive.

[-] audiomodder 5 points 4 months ago

People forget that Biden was paired with Obama because Obama was seen as “too liberal” for “mainstream Democrats”. Biden was supposed to be a “correction” for Obama’s crazy ideas like the ACA (that was actually originally pushed for by, wait for it, Ronald fucking Reagan. The only difference was that Reagan didn’t propose any kind of public option, but that was the first thing Democrats killed in the name of “compromise”)

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Yet Biden has been way more liberal than Obama.

[-] audiomodder 1 points 4 months ago

Are you joking or not? I can’t tell.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

He has. By literally every measure.

[-] audiomodder 1 points 4 months ago

Ok. I’ll let you believe what you want to I guess. Evidently Obama actively supported multiple genocides instead of passively supporting one.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Yes, that is also true. Glad you're catching up.

[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world 6 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

They didn't call him Wall Street Pete and Wine Cave Pete for nothing...

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