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Like Andrei S. Markovits once said, some criticisim of Israel is really "damned if you do, and damned if you don't". When Israel would discriminate against LGBTQ like other countries in the middle east, it would be used against them. But if it does not, it is still used against Israel. What do you want Israel to do? Discriminate against LGBTQ or not? You're just against Israel per se, let's be honest. I think this is really unfair criticism.
I don’t know who that guy is but blackmailing LBTQ Palestinians into spying on their friends and family is really not a great achievement next to genociding them along with every other Palestinian.
But if we’re doing quotes I’d like to quote the queer Jews who got kicked out of the White House pride party recently:
Like I implied, obviously not everything is well in Israel. But generally, the term "pink washing" is not useful. Also the war in gaza is not a genocide, but that's a different topic, I guess.
Edit: Andrei S. Markovits https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrei_Markovits
Edit 2: This is no appeal to authority, the argument is good.
If we’re at genocide denial I don’t know what else to talk about.
Edit: I can look the guy up, my point is just because someone said something it doesn’t mean it’s necessarily relevant let alone true.
Words are cheap nowadays. Read the Israeli answer to the South African claim in The Hague. The intent, which is important in the definition of genocide, is completly lacking. There are some war crimes, but not genocide, at least not at the moment.
Just one more thing: The IDF warns civilians before bombing. Which other army in the world does that? (To be fair: according to the BBC there are some mistakes in the information.)
Wtf? The IDF regularly bombs places they told people to flee to???
Imagine for a moment that you’re one of the many wonderful colours in the LGBT rainbow. You’re also a soldier and you’re fighting people who hate you for both your religion and your sexuality. You’re in a place where traditionally folks with your sexuality/gender identity would be systematically executed. Would you not also wear a rainbow pin and take a photo or two to commemorate that moment? To me it feels significant enough
Yeah I’d be raising the rainbow flag over the bunch of kids I just executed for creating some new Zionist Lebensraum. Maybe let’s do a pride parade on the Netzarim corridor.
This whole post is exactly about what you’re trying to do with your pink washing and genocide denial.
What we don't want Israel to do is use LGBTQ people as propaganda, especially against Palestinians. It's unproductive, and it disgusts me everytime someone uses "Hamas would throw you off a roof" as a cheap gotcha.
To stop the genocide they're committing. I thought this was pretty clear from all the protests?
I think it's generally agreed that slaughtering children and raping and torturing people is wrong. Perhaps you were raised differently?