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Yall gonna hate me, but it is on the presidential ballot, Jill Stein has come out supporting term limits and expanding the court after this fiasco.
Is she viable with our current first-past-the-post system? No? Then she's not a realistic choice. All she can do is pull votes from Democrats, handing the election to Trump.
Its a weird self fulfilling prophecy thing. Its entirely up to vote whether or not she wins, but people wont vote for her only because they dont think she'll win.
I won't vote for her because she's a traitor pushing Russian interests, just like trump.
anything besides her consistent calls for less US military interventions? The green party is a lot less military focused than republicans and democrats
That traitor pushes Putin's propaganda on Ukraine. That's enough for me to know she is pro-oligarchy and anti-democracy.
Unless that propaganda is something other than "the US should have less military presence in other countries", then this is just...the platform of an actually progressive party that has always called for being less of a militaristic nation. You'll see her calling for the US to stop aiding Israel in its genocide as well.
I feel like you still aren't getting it. It's not these reasons, it's because we have a 2-Party system. I don't like it, and we desperately need election reform, but until then, no one can win without being the Republican/Democrat Nominee. Bernie Sanders, Jon Stewart, Donald Trump, Joe Biden, not one of them could win as a 3rd-Party candidate...
these words are hollow in the face of actions actively perpetuating the 2 party system. Im looking enviously at Peter Magyar in Hungary forming a party in March and now being elected to EU parliament because people wanted an alternative after a corruption scandal. This shit aint enough for you?
Some real "Curious... You criticize society, yet you participate in it" vibes here. "Perpetuate" the 2-party system!? What are you actually talking about? People should not vote, or throw it away until they magically give us ranked choice voting?? Absolute nonsense.
If you want to walk the walk, start a grass roots effort to reform the system, and I'll support you. Until then, I'll assume you're just trying to get people to not use our only real power currently: voting.
Im talking about voting for ranked choice. Thats just it, we arent going to magically get it by doing nothing, it happens when we say so.
viability is a myth invented by the media. hilary was viable. john kerry.
Did you read beyond that word? I'm not applying a political yardstick to her, I'm using the term in the sense that she literally cannot win.
the ambiguity of this syntax is fun! the democrats are handing the election to trump, and jill stein is trying to pull votes from them!
You mean Russian Asset Jill Stein?
Is this that one photo again? Why yes it is. Surely you wouldn't vote for a candidate with photos of being friendly with Putin
It's more than the photo and you know it.
But it is the same old photo, i knew what it was gonna be before i even clicked it
Righto, I suppose you also support the annexation of Ukraine like your hero does? That makes you the enemy of democracy.
Ill wait here while you find her supporting that
How about you read the actual rather than just looking at the thumbnail.
Ive seen it before, the article is some nonsense about...her trying to win an election against Biden? Biden is shit and I agree with her criticisms. Then it's trying to say she never criticizes Trump when most of her criticisms of Biden are pejoratively comparing him to Trump. Trump being shit is a given.
Sure, but only if we had ranked choice voting.
no, she's going to be on the ballot whether we have ranked choice or no.
She supports that too
She’s got my vote!
A vote for that traitor is a vote for both Russian assets.
Oh, the audacity of that woman to go and get pictured with Putin like that, in public, at a larger conference, in the interest of actual diplomacy.
Surely this is on the same level of treachery as a closed door meeting with no American translator. Or the eternal fanning of war flames by neolibs in order to fund the military industrial complex.