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Los Angeles’s Mayor Was Contemplating a Mask Ban. She Just Got Covid.
(newrepublic.com)
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Shut the fuck up.
Are we talking about N95s? Oh, hang on, I recognize this username, we're talking about whatever delusions you're having today.
The weirdest thing about masks is how easy it was to brainwash the "muh freedoms" crowd against covering their faces just by having a clown in orange facepaint say masks are effeminate. Hope you all enjoy having your entries in everyone's facial recognition database.
The strangest part of this was how conservatives used to be the ones pushing for wearing masks as alternatives to vaccinations, because the mindless fear of needles goes waaay back. See, chances are I'm older than you, so I've seen these cycles repeat themselves over and over. You've only seen it once or twice tops.
What happens is that a politician will dangle a new fear over you, and you will attach to that fear because that's how our brains work. I am talking universally, not specific to one party or ideology, this is how we ALL work, and leftists are equally guilty of grifting their base the same way.
But you HAVE to understand where this came from, why you're fighting with people about this, where this came from.
Never mind that people have been wearing face covering for millenia to reduce spreading disease, we have paintings and etching of lepers and plague victims going back thousands of years wearing something to prevent accidental spreading of saliva or body fluids. This isn't a complicated idea, and a lot of people wear face coverings anyway to prevent illness or for safety around immunocompromised people. This isn't new, this isn't something that was planned or contrived, the ONLY reason you're having arguments with people about face masks of all things is because someone out there knows how to connect your brain to a story to explain how it feels. To make you expend your energy on this, not making our world better or focusing on your elected representatives and what they're signing into law, and I bet it works great. I bet you don't get involved in your local politics. Nobody does, nobody spends as much energy on their actual neighborhoods as they do arguing online about props.
See, like with a lot of other things, a lot of us were unsure and worried about the future, so a lot of people trying to get power used masks as their props to fixate that insecurity on. I am not even going to talk about their effectiveness or not, it's like wearing a hat in the sun, sure it won't save you from sunburns but it's just a thing we do to try our best to protect what we can, it's not a big deal.
Your brain is not a tool of logic and reason, that's an illusion. It's a tool to tell you a story to explain how you feel. And it LOVES when someone provides a story for it. Because your brain wants a story that makes sense, not one that's accurate. There is a difference. A lot of things can make sense and not be true.
It should be a giant, glaring alarm that someone is fucking with your brain when you start feeling contentious about what other people wear on their faces. That HAS to trigger something deep inside that makes you wonder why you're so emotionally connected to this "debate."
You got chains around you and they're going to keep attaching chains until you realize how deeply you're playing in the WWE theater of political rhetoric. Let this one go, just walk away, it's objectively a nonsense campaign designed to distracted you.
The outraged reply you're already pounding out in your head is part of that distraction. You are giving your soul away to others to use as they will. Doesn't that bother you?
What state do you live in where you can't go on unemployment if you're laid off? I got laid off from a part-time job during COVID and qualified for unemployment. And this is in Republican-dominated Indiana.
This sounds suspiciously like you're doing something underhanded with your employees.
Business might be fictional. They certainly don't care about facts or reality on this topic. Why would they limit the lies and cognitive biases only to the websites they're sharing?
Half the time these are 17-year-old middle-class white kids with no worries in the world, raging emotional hormones and a desire to "thrash someone with their incredible intellect" and have no real care for the issues beyond that, they just want to fight and they will lie to their last breath to feel like they're special and smart.
I really feel like if we could see who most of the people are who push back on so many modern social issues, we would have a lot fewer social issues, because we would be able to roll our eyes and close the door on these literal children who are turning every conversation into a debate with children.
That aside, the way small businesses were left hanging was definitely a political failure. I don't know what business you have or why you had to fire people, but I'll happily blame a lack of compensation for businesses that can't operate.
Ah, you used cheap labour from undocumented workers and it came back to bite you? There goes my sympathy.
As for the science, there are studies to suggest measures like shelter-in-place had an impact, and the fact that literally every form of mask reduces risk of transmission at least slightly has been established long before the nature of viral infections was understood. You could easily find these things online or through a university library, given how scientifically versed you are. But I suspect you'd cherry-pick the ones you like anyway, so why bother?
No, you don't. I can prove it.
If you get emotional reactions seeing other people make choices about to wear on their faces, you're dumber than horse shit, you are a toddler, a child, a baby who needs to grow up.
See? That wasn't hard, no data needed, just plain ol' simple "common sense."
Aren't you guys all about "common sense?" I think It's common sense to let people make their own choices and not get so hyper about someone else's political agenda that you have to chime in about.... mask bans. It's just awful. I can't imagine doing that and looking at the mirror and saying "Yeah, I am making the world better."
I understand. I assume you paid them well for fair work hours under good conditions, provided for all the safety precautions, worker's compensation, proper healthcare and all the good things a decent employer would do? Paid taxes on your income to fund the infrastructure you're using?
In that case, yes, you're a good samaritan and got shafted by an unfair system.
Doesn't change the fact that scientific data suggests all those Covid measures had some impact, but I'll take back my cheap labor comment then.
You, one comment ago:
You now:
So, you refuse to read the data conveniently provided to you, and also claim that you "actually need data to make conclusions." You're quickly losing any shred of credibility you have left.
So you knowingly hire illegal immigrants instead of employing US citizens? What a great guy, getting that cheap labor and avoiding paying unemployment insurance, worker's comp, social security...
Okay but that addresses no part of my comment, why do you get mad when you see people wear facemasks? Isn't that kind of strange? Is it helping anyone?
Doesn't it make you feel manipulated to have others able to make you start having emotional reactions to things you see that you wouldn't have thought about before?
You go ahead and color outside the lines.
So, what's your position on people who cover their mouth when they cough/sneeze? Do you like, spread your "underground" news with them? That surgeons only wear all that stuff because it's a Big Pharma scam? There's so much out there, countless videos people made showing how masks help prevent the spread of disease, not just Covid, in case you thought somehow Bill Gates 5G microchips were like, specific.
Which Fox News/far right extremist "underground" source you listen to on the daily? I wanna know which sound bites you like to repeat like a parrot, but pass off as your own.
Surgeons do wear masks in public for exactly the same reason they wear masks in surgery. Idk what your point is exactly. Lockdowns did work as evidenced by infection rates in lockdown counties vs open counties. It's stupid whores like you thinking someone is "doing this to you" when it's happening to all of us.
What lockdowns? The brief stint where people stayed home for the most contagious variant? That worked, but people decided that hacking in each others faces was more fun then staying home.
Also, The Sun is a rag.
So, a bank said, staying home didn't prevent a contagious disease from spreading... And you didn't question that? You were like 'the money people said so' and that was good enough...
I mean if you wanted to argue it didn't work because people didn't listen and didn't do the lockdown and went out... That just means people are selfish pricks, not that the science wouldn't have worked. How do you not piece that together? A bunch of MAGA morons yelling 'my freedoms', is largely why it kept going. You trusted a bank over the CDC. Fucking wild.
Wow. You're linking to a Rupert Murdoch tabloid newspaper to tell us a study from a bank that agrees with the corporate perspective on lockdowns affective their bottom line.
I can't imagine why it agrees with you.
I think I would go with a 19 author study published in science over a bank report in May. MAY! How much data did they have? At least by December we could get some data to work with
https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.abd9338
But is doesn't matter what science says for you does it?
Are you under the bizarre impression that surgeons wear N95 masks?
Are you playing a game of Rule 8 roulette?
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/coronavirus-face-masks-what-you-need-to-know
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-mask/art-20485449
https://newsinhealth.nih.gov/2021/11/face-masks-covid-19
https://www.cdc.gov/respiratory-viruses/prevention/masks.html
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7852241/
You really don't get it.
Masking and distancing were already well establsihed as early recommendations for flu pandemic strategies for decades prior to covid.
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2021/03/harvard-experts-discuss-the-history-of-social-distancing/
But the practice of “maintaining a greater than usual physical distance” goes back to the 14th century, when ships arriving to Venice during an outbreak of the Black Death were forced to quarantine, or sit at anchor, for 40 days.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_distancing#History
Your mind seems trapped in a alternate reality of conspiracy, you should absolutely seek some therapy with a licensed mental health professional.
You are imagining a group of people working against you, and projecting your on religious-like belief against anyone not within your strict bubble of expectations of belief.
The Mayor of LA needs to wear a mask to reduce the chance of her spreading it further. Wearing a mask when infected is actually the most useful case for masking. You can be infected without knowing it, so wearing the mask to reduce the particle spread even if you are not symptomatic is absolutely a good thing to do. Wearing a mask when not infected, but around other people, is not and was never posited as a guaranteed protection from infection, but from either side of the equation, infected or not, you still end up filtering even some amount of inbound particles when you are breathing with a proper mask.
Arbitrarily claiming it doesn't work or didn't have any measurable difference, especially in the face of linked evidence by actual medical professionals showing it does and it did, demonstrates you are proselytizing belief built with actual misinformation.
Hmm, should I trust scientists publishing actual studies that can control for differences... or the certainty unbiased information at covid charts quiz dot com. LOL
Of course when it comes down to presenting "muh science" and "muh statistics" it is always links to shit like this with guys like you.
Who are Tim Scott and Tom Woods and why should I believe they are able to interpret data in a way to make such a quiz in an unbiased way?
What I understood from Tom Woods's Wikipedia page is that he is a pro-Confederate libertarian.
Well that answers that.
You again, huh?
This article has nothing to do with how effective masks are at stopping covid.