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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

This election will come down to firmly purple swing states, and literally not a single one would swing blue for such a divisive candidate. (Not even saying she’s divisive for good reason, just that she objectively is when you look at public sentiment).

2008 Obama...

Our first Black president. Lots of "moderates" said the same things you're saying now.

Then he flipped a bunch of red states. Not just purple. Solid red states voting for a young progressive minority.

[-] Please_Do_Not@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago

And the vast majority of the electorate is even more conservative now, while modern progressives have less broad party support than Obama did. Obama had also been working on and receiving POTUS chatter for years before throwing his hat in. There's just no one like that in today's party.

It's not 2008, and a comparison of Obama's chances then with someone sliding into the race this late is not based in reality. I really wish it was, but there is no Obama in today's DRC, and if there was, his campaign would still be starting 10 steps back to suddenly enter the race. I don't like it any more than the next guy, but I'm not gonna advocate for even worse chances against Trump.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

And the vast majority of the electorate is even more conservative now

I'm not taking that as fact without a decent source.

[-] Please_Do_Not@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago
[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Ok...

But that graph on that article doesn't show:

the vast majority of the electorate is even more conservative now

Which, already is an incredibly vague statement. But the timeline of the graph shows literally the opposite

Why did you just link an article and not reference the specific part you're referring to?

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