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[-] elscallr@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago

Ok let's be honest. He's said he's pro life, but he's said it's not his job to impose that opinion on anyone else. You have to respect that or you are literally saying everyone has to think the same as you do.

[-] PagingDoctorLove@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

I have to respect the fact that he doesn't think I deserve bodily autonomy? I disagree. People can and do have harmful beliefs. They are harmful because they shape the way that person views and interacts with others, within the confines of a social structure. If he wants to go off grid and not benefit from any social services, I'll help him pack the moving truck myself. But he's not going to, which means he's benefiting from rights, laws, and services that are meant to protect everyone, even people who he doesn't think deserve them.

Pro-life individuals are so insidious, they managed to have a basic human right rescinded in more than half the country.

Was he solely responsible for overturning Roe v. Wade? Of course not. Did he directly impose his opinion on anyone else? Maybe, maybe not. We only have his word to go on, and I'm sorry but that's not worth shit.

My point is, he's not just sitting there twiddling his thumbs either, he's using his platform to publicly support big institutions (March for Life) that work diligently behind the scenes to oppress women.

Like I said, I enjoy the comics. They're cute and funny and I don't get the vibe that he's using them to be preacy about abortion. But he is 100% a shitty person with offensive, harmful beliefs and no, I do NOT have to respect that.

[-] elscallr@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

No, he very explicitly says it's not his right to tell you what to do or think. You're literally taking that wrong, and I think you might be doing it disingenuously but I apologize if that's wrong.

Opinions don't matter. Actions matter. Give me an example of someone doing something wrong and I'll grab a pitchfork. People are allowed to disagree with your morality, regardless of your obvious attempt to claim the moral high ground via vacuous means.

[-] MetaCubed@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I was going to reply, thought better of it, and then read this comment.

Opinions don't matter. Actions matter.

And supporting an action which is harmful gives support to those who are undertaking the harmful action. Even if you disagree with the right to elective abortions, there are states and countries which have banned abortions in medically emergent situations. Their actions will be responsible for 2 deaths instead of one in these situations. Get off the cross, we need the wood.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

You have to respect that

My standards for respect are not yours to decide.

[-] elscallr@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Then your being disingenuous at best and a hypocrite at worst and you're not worth engaging with.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

He's a piece of shit. Just because you look up to shit and consider it worthy of your respect, that doesn't mean you get to demand that respect from others.

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