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But they did make headlines, that's how we know about these. The FTC and FCC doing their job more is good and makes headlines.
It's good, don't get me wrong. But man it feels like table scraps compared to a lot on what Biden ran on in 2020.
Not really. The average person knows more about trump's bowel movements than these accomplishments. The average undecided voter is lazy and needs information spoon-fed to them. That's why it matters what is reported in the media.
And also, the people who run the media have very fucked up priorities. Biden's NLRB can make historic strides in bringing unions back into American working life and they every so often run a story about it if there happens to be something they can say that has the word "Starbucks" in it.
But, if either Biden or Trump ever farted on camera, it would be all we heard about for a month.
The public's attention span has gone down, for better or words. It probably wouldn't last that long. So we got that going for us.
Remember the fucking "Dean scream"? Fuck policies, a dude yelled!
It started as a deliberate engineering technique. Let's take the most left wing guy we can find, and make him look like an evil crazy weak moron fascist pants shitting wimp robot that nobody likes, by sheer force of peer pressure and insult. It hurt Al Gore and John Kerry quite a bit, and I think the Dean Scream was probably the peak of the middle school peer pressure bullshit. I think soon after that a lot of people just stopped paying attention to the TV news for anything. But it's still happening; now it's just phrased as things like "Biden is old and out of touch and we're concerned that his polls are down." I think around the time of Bernie Sanders (when no one gave a shit that they were broadcasting that he was officially not cool and a crazy person communist stupid head and everyone better stop liking him), was when they realized they'd have to regroup and come up with a fresh updated strategy with it.
Also, the beast has gotten out of control, a little bit -- it used to be exclusively a tool of the corporate media aimed at the lefty-est candidate, but it started being how the political press covered everything, to the point that they couldn't really steer it anymore to shit exclusively on the left wing candidates they were trying to destroy. Then a while after that, Trump came along and was 10 times better at it than anything the news could come up with, and the rest is history.
When it comes to progress being made for unions, I think it might have something to do with the fact that the owners of the newspapers are billionaires.
Sure, I agree that it should be brought up more, and that Trump gets endless free airtime even from liberal news outlets. But it's just wild to go "No one remembers or talks about these, the media ignores it!" while we're talking about it and the good it has done.
“We” are not the corporate media, but to your point they did dutifully report these stories, perfunctorily, on page 23 or behind the weather, sports, movie recommendations and lots of ads.
The reporting was not commensurate with the benefits of the policies. As such, the people who most need to know about them likely won’t, but “we” do.
If there was a liberal equivalent to Fox News, they would be talking about it literally every night. Interviewing people who got jobs, putting up the numbers, airing new factories and manufacturing plants and putting up the numbers of how much of their funding came from Biden's policies. Putting up the graph of how much Amazon is paying in tax now and tossing up softballs about how people must have been waiting for this for a long time.
But because there's nobody with 200 billion dollars just kind of sitting around that they feel like investing in setting up that kind of operation, it's all in White House press releases and the occasional print story from some online news site that's asking for donations and might be gone 2 years from now when the unsustainable nature of their business model finally becomes unavoidable.
FTFY. Liberalism is right-wing economically, and therefore is motivated to downplay Biden helping workers over corporations just as much as Fox News is.
I actually wrote left wing originally and then edited it specifically to match Lemmy’s Overton window - I agree with you; his trade policies seem liberal to me, but union support and corporate taxes are pretty explicitly left wing I agree. But in Lemmy terms I think he wouldn’t be considered “leftist” unless he is overthrowing the means of production, maybe.
Given that the republiQans retook the house in 2022, what did Biden run on that he hasn’t delivered?
But we don't have the President saying stupid shit on Twitter every day, so I guess that means we're back to a sane normal, or whatever white cishet liberals need to say to sleep well at night. Ignore the bloodshed of BIPOC and queers, women and their doctors fleeing red states over being arrested for bodily autonomy, and that white nationalists just goosestep freely because its not respectable to tell fascists to fuck off and die, it doesn't impact you, so it's all sane politics and electable!
Numbers have increased because more people are crossing the border. Biden has initiated several programs to streamline the asylum process and reduce the time people are detained. For example even though unaccompanied minors crossing the border have doubled since the end of Trump's term, the number of pending asylum cases for minors has decreased.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/02/23/no-bidens-new-border-move-isnt-like-trumps-kids-cages-not-hardly/
If you thought Covid was ever going away, that's your mistake. Nothing to do with Biden. Get your vaccine and boosters on schedule and you will be fine.
Congress passes laws, not the president. The Supreme Court wouldn't let and executive order last a day. Biden did what he could by allowing Mifepristone to be dispensed by pharmacies and sent through the mail.
He has said that and he did what he could by raising the minimum wage for federal workers.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/01/28/statement-by-president-joe-biden-on-15-minimum-wage-for-federal-workers-and-contractors-going-into-effect/
"Defund the police" as a slogan is just ammo for Republicans. He is right to move away from it. Biden tried to pass the George Floyd Justice in Policing act but the Republicans blocked it. He has done a lot more. See below
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/02/07/fact-sheet-the-biden-harris-administrations-work-to-make-our-communities-safer-and-advance-effective-accountable-policing/
He's running against Trump. That's how he is stopping Project 2025. Stop fucking trying to make that fail by repeating lies and propaganda
You said before that you know Congress has the power of the purse. He cannot do the things you want without Congress voting for it.
You're ignoring what Biden did after. He kept pushing for what the union wanted and in the end they got their sick leave. The IBEW that led Biden
https://www.ibew.org/media-center/Articles/23Daily/2306/230620_IBEWandPaid
It sucks but that is going to happen no matter who is president. At least Biden took action to protect us from foreign spying.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/02/28/fact-sheet-president-biden-issues-sweeping-executive-order-to-protect-americans-sensitive-personal-data/
Why is the ACLU suing the Biden administration?
Because they're Russians. Duh.
The ACLU is always suing whatever administration is in power. It's their job.
Ah, you don't know.
It's because Biden's latest border actions are a violation of international law. Restricting asylum seeking by shutting down the border is illegal. The ACLU is suing to stop him from committing a crime against humanity.
Here is the ACLU statement on the lawsuit.
https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/immigrants-rights-groups-sue-biden-administration-over-new-anti-asylum-rule
Nowhere does it say it is a "crime against humanity". Meanwhile the ACLU sued Trump over 400 times.
https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/aclu-has-filed-400-legal-actions-against-trump-administration
(Note that the say they have sued literally every president since their inception)
So chill the fuck out. There are only two choices for president and one is objectively the better choice for legal management of the border.
No, but it does say:
This is an abomination. It's just Trump's targeting of asylum seekers all over again. Yes, I was editorializing by calling it a crime against humanity (I think it is, but that's not the ACLUs position) but I was correct to call this a violation of international law. We have an obligation to asylum seekers that Biden is ignoring, just like Trump did.
I get it, Trump is bad and worse in some ways (I think being extremely stupid is actually a point in his favor because he fails at most of the shit he tries), but why won't you admit that Biden is also bad?
Oh, I absolutely agree Biden's policy is bad too. Personally I think any more immigration restrictions beyond quarantine for highly communicable diseases is wrong. But saying that Biden is anywhere near as bad as Trump is just factually incorrect. It's like comparing a paper cut to a bullet wound. Criticize Biden all you want once he is reelected, but until then you are only helping Trump get back into office by acting like they are at all comparable.
No, it's like comparing a minor gunshot wound to a much larger gunshot wound. Calling this a paper cut is a cruel understatement. They are comparable and you'll appeal more to voters if you admit it!
Biden is trying to expand and streamline asylum. Trump wants to cut it and deport millions on top of that. It's comparing apples to the literal opposite of apples.
That's an outright lie. He's literally shutting down the border in violation of our treaty obligations.
Saying he is shutting down the border is an outright lie. He put a limit on illegal immigration.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Proclamation_on_Securing_the_Border
Biden ended the Covid era restrictions Trump put on the border that blocked nearly all asylum seekers. He sent thousands more staff to more quickly process asylum requests.
https://www.govexec.com/workforce/2023/05/biden-deploys-thousands-federal-personnel-border/386230/
Biden expanded the path to citizenship for hundreds of thousands of immigrants who are married to citizens.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/biden-offers-path-citizenship-spouses-us-citizens-election-year-gambit-2024-06-18/
Keep up with the news.
This is in violation of the rights of asylum seekers and a violation of our treaties. It also includes other bullshit like making it more difficult to make credible fear claims and thus easier to deny asylum (when they bother to have the border open).
Legally he shouldn't be able to just blanket deny asylum claims, but America never lets the law get in the way of fucking nonwhite people over.
He isn't denying asylum claims. That is a lie. He is pausing the processing of asylum claims so we can catch up. Asylum seekers will still get to apply; they just have to wait. There is only so much manpower and time in the day, so there is a finite amount of applications that can be processed during a week. Makes sense to me.
Pausing asylum claims means people have to wait and die. For them, there's no difference between a pause and a denial.
Pausing claims after such a low number of approvals will also mean some people will be waiting months.
Why are you even bothering to defend Bide after last night? We should be replacing him!
Replace with who? Nobody has a better shot than him, like it or not.
Having to wait is part of getting asylum. It's not the end of the world. If they absolutely can't wait, they can cross away from the official border crossing
Any of the people who ran in 2020 would probably be fine, they have name recognition and I bet they'd all say yes. That's why they had the debate before the Convention! They wanted to see how Biden would do and he did terribly. He needs to be replaced.
Hell, most of us voted for Biden under the assumption he would be a one term president!
And it is the end of the world for the people who will literally die because they couldn't wait in the US while their asylum claim was being processed. That's the huge part. What the new rules do is force them to remain in Mexico (literally a 2019 Trump policy btw), where people seeking asylum are in mortal danger and will die. Stop trying to normalize this.
Thank you
You are right on every single one of these, but you aren't going to get a response to any of them on here.
Liberals stop caring about immigrants, women, poor people, COVID, etc, as soon as there is a Democrat in power they can make excuses for.
Someone responded.
This aged poorly.
Meanwhile, conservatives never cared about those things?
Is there anyone else? won't somebody please think of the children!
The difference is that Republicans never pretend to care, Democrats talk about caring and then legislate like their conservative counterparts
Down voters be like "How dare you know what you're talking about!"
Yeah these absolutely made headline / TV news when they passed. No idea what OP means.
He means they aren't brokered talking points. No one is pushing this, because there's not a huge amount of money, bots, every news outlet that has a vested financial interest in getting Biden a second term.
Trump was found guilty, took a huge hit in polls, then turned around and had the biggest funding boost in US history.