Lightcone is so outraged at the Guardian article that they have started a prediction market about it (manifold.markets)

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WE DEMAND A CORRECTION TO uh various minor nitpicks

also we swear we totally didn't get your email

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I am having a lot of fun on Manifold, but if the team insists on inviting eugenics speakers to conferences, its probably time for me to leave :-/

What exactly is your objection to people exercising their bodily autonomy to implement voluntary eugenics?

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[-] gnomicutterance@awful.systems 18 points 6 months ago

is it considered acceptable journalistic ethics at Vox for a journalist who reports on EAs and prediction markets to make prediction market bets on how a journalistic outlet will follow-up a story on prediction markets and EAs? My eyebrows have just levitated so high they've collided with a starlink swarm.

[-] dgerard@awful.systems 14 points 6 months ago

yes, she's ingroup

[-] gnomicutterance@awful.systems 14 points 6 months ago

But betting? There’s being an insider and then there’s profiting, and aren’t most journalists prohibited from trading or betting on their covered areas?

[-] dgerard@awful.systems 12 points 6 months ago

but money is The Unit Of Caring

yes, she literally nicknamed herself "money"

[-] aio@awful.systems 11 points 6 months ago

Isn't it like not real money? Or have they changed that

[-] Evinceo@awful.systems 8 points 6 months ago

Aren't prediction markets an attempt to turn insider trading into a productive part of society (or whatever the libertarians who love prediction markets conceptualize as society.)

[-] mawhrin@awful.systems 14 points 6 months ago

she's literally paid from an EA grant for the work at vox, so she can hardly compromise her journalistic ethics more.

[-] gnomicutterance@awful.systems 13 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

There really is a difference in professional ethics guidelines, though. Matt Levine used to work at Goldman, he totally always sides with financialization, and for that matter everyone at Bloomberg is paid by Mike Bloomberg, but they still have professional guidelines preventing them from most trading.

ETA: lol. lmao, even