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submitted 4 months ago by Emperor@feddit.uk to c/movies@lemm.ee

A great movie trailer can single handedly turn a movie into a success story--like that genius Cloverfield trailer in 2007 that didn't say what the title of the movie was. But it's more common these days, I'd argue, for a trailer to have the opposite impact. A generic trailer can so thoroughly dampen hype for a film that something like Furiosa, a great movie everybody likes that's a sequel to a great movie everybody likes, could become a major box office disappointment.

Furiosa was the second big financial letdown in May after The Fall Guy kicked the month off with a similarly low-key box office take, and both will end up coming in well below the numbers that summer blockbusters are supposed to have--neither of these films will get to the $100 million mark at the domestic box office. There are a lot of factors playing a part in why the summer has been so dismal thus far, but this my favorite: the trailers for those movies were awful.

In technical terms, the ads for The Fall Guy and Furiosa are fine. They're slickly edited, and they played up the cool action that those films have and all that. But they lacked something that's just as important as big explosions for potential audiences: information. The Fall Guy was marketed on being a movie that Ryan Gosling does action scenes in--but if you wanted to actually know what it was about, or what the title meant, you'd have to google it. Furiosa, likewise, was sold as little more than Fury Road again but with new actors, with the trailers doing little to demonstrate how immensely different it is in structure. Furiosa is an epic tale that takes place over 18 years--it's the Godfather Part 2 of Mad Max, basically, but the ads hid everything that made it different from the last one.

The core issue, really, is how cookie cutter the Hollywood marketing machine has gotten--just about every big trailer is cut similarly to these ones I'm complaining about. But it's fine when they actually give us information, or are able to come somewhat close to matching the vibe of the movie. That's certainly a factor in how Denis Villeneuve's Dune flicks have managed to become hits, with Part Two reigning as the top movie of 2024 so far--the trailers for both Dune movies generally reflect the vibe of the films they are selling, and they use narration to fill you in on the various conflicts in the story so you can get a sense of what's going on without reading any books. In other words, those trailers come off subconsciously to viewers as sincere and trustworthy.

And by extension, the trailers for The Fall Guy and Furiosa, which seem to fear trying to sell those movies on their own actual merits, play instead as empty and meaningless and not really worth caring about. Hollywood's been churning out trailers like this, which coast entirely on vibes at the expense of telling you what the movie is about, non-stop for about a decade--we may just be over it at this point.

Previously: Are trailers revealing too much again nowadays?

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[-] dpkonofa@lemmy.world 53 points 4 months ago

Or maybe the issue is that no one wants to go to the theatre anymore and both of these movies will perform just fine on streaming services. My local AMC theatre is dirty, sticky, and oily everywhere. None of the employees give a flying fuck and the management obviously just wants to squeeze as much money out of the operation as possible for the least amount of care and concern. People still talk and are generally annoying during movies in theatres. There’s no movie, Furiosa or otherwise, that I would prefer to see in a theatre anymore.

[-] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 20 points 4 months ago

On the flipside, my wife and I go to eatery-style movie theaters and the chairs are very comfortable, the food is expensive (but so was just candy/popcorn+drink combos of the past) and generally the food is actually good. Maybe just need to find a better theater for you to enjoy the movie going experience.

We also rarely ever go on an opening night, much nicer when the theater has less people in it.

[-] LNRDrone@sopuli.xyz 12 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Yeah, same here. For the couple movies a year we actually want to see in a theatre, we go to a "VIP" one that serves alcoholic drinks and some snacky foods on top of the typical movie theater stuff. No teens allowed because of the drinks. So much cleaner in general and comfier seats than a typical theater. It's a bit more expensive, especially when overpaying for the beer, but it is for so much better experience.

[-] Devdogg@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 months ago

But what if I don't want a steak or a burger while watching Furiosa?

[-] protist@mander.xyz 14 points 4 months ago

Then don't order one? You're not required to order food at places like Alamo Drafthouse. I typically get a basket of french fries and a couple beers. They're pretty strict about disturbances in the audience too.

I went to a Cinemark once not too long ago, on the other hand, and it was a gross mess. The people in the seat next to me dropped something under their seat and pulled out their phone flashlights to look for it. Someone from staff came out with a flashlight too. It took them like 10 minutes to find whatever it is they dropped, they talked the whole time and it was super disruptive.

[-] Jakeroxs@sh.itjust.works 2 points 4 months ago

Like the other commenter said, don't order it then, it's not a requirement to order like a comedy club lol

[-] dpkonofa@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Nah. We have those too and I used to like them just fine (a few different chains, including Alamo) but not enough to excuse the servers doing the duck-server squat in front of you every 5 minutes.

[-] maegul@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 months ago

How much of this is an enshitificatin dynamic?

My impression is that cinemas used to be everywhere, like corner sandwich shops almost, and have been killed off by mega corp monopolies.

Like the film industry itself, it could just be the sort of thing best done without trying to make a significant profit, but instead happy to break even.

[-] myrrh@ttrpg.network 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

...when even the drafthouse is doing substandard presentation, what's the point of going to theatres anymore?..they lost the plot when they added recliners and jumped the shark upon selling to sony...

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