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Hilary lost to Obama in 2008 because she would not shut up about how Aktuly Very Correct she was in her endorsement of the invasion of Iraq. She would not shut up about how international trade deals are cool and deindustrialization of the Midwest was an improvement. She kept getting caught in very stupid conferences with two dozen billionaires saying how we're going to fuck the middle class raw.
And eight years later she decided to run the exact same campaign while secretly funneling money to Trump as a straw candidate she could easily beat in the general.
And then what happened?
We found out she was pretty representative of her base? Arrogant and unable to learn or self reflect?
Also worth noting that the majority of white women voted for Donald Trump in 2016.
Even Hilary's Girlboss base couldn't say no to another round of GOP tax cuts
I agree the DNC primary is bullshit, but if you're bitching about this year, then shut the fuck up. Nobody is going to win a primary against an incumbent President. There aren't any Democrats who could beat Biden heads up, much less Trump.
If you want to talk about the primaries in 2020 and 2016, then yes I agree.
I don't think a primary would have weakened Biden, but I also don't think a viable candidate could have challenged Biden. Sitting presidents don't face legitimate primary challengers.
The New Hampshire thing is a stupid DNC machination. They don't want New Hampshire to be first anymore, and New Hampshire still wants to be first. That's not Biden rigging the election, that's just oligarchs playing chicken with human rights.
I'd love to see a barnstorming Biden go fifty states with a message of hope and progress. Biden ain't that guy, and he wasn't that guy when he was 20.years younger, he either. But he is the incumbent, and no serious Democrat is going to risk the ire of the party by challenging the person who is ostensibly the party leader. They won't raise money, they won't have volunteers, and they won't get any pork or committee assignments. It's just bad politics.
I agree with you, I think an actual primary would be good. But I'm no longer naive enough to think it might happen.
We can ask better, and you must be very young if you think this started in 2016.
But we also have to play the hand we're dealt.