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[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 8 points 4 months ago

Mate how about you stop making excuses for fascists and stop giving them the benefit of being presumed to have a reasonable position that deserves anything but getting called out for their collaborationist shit.

"Tickle my funny bone or I'll let your kids get sent to camps!", that's the mentality you're trying to argue is fair and reasonable and worth having a debate with as if it's anything but abject failure of one's own ability to not be one of the worst kinds of people imagineable.

"Make me excited about not letting the morality police happen!"

"I wanna feel good about preventing contraceptive bans!"

"What am I getting out of preventing them putting machine gun nests on the wall with orders to shoot to kill anyone who approaches?"

Yeah I agree Biden's boring, I agree Clinton and Gore and Kerry were boring too, doesn't change that they ran against christofascist candidates, and the supposed not fascists of this country abjectly failed to do their bare minimum duty because "I don't really feel like it."

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago

how about you stop making excuses for fascists

Who's doing that?

I'm saying we need to do what has the best chance to beating the fascists.

Which is run a charismatic candidate who agrees with Dem voters.

You on the other hand, keep insulting people and saying voters need to compromise but politicians don't.

That's not democracy. Especially when the DNC has argued in court they can interfere with a primary as much as they want, because the results are non finding anyways.

Think about that.

It means Dem voters never get any day in who represents them.

When the goal is getting more votes than fascists, that's not a good plan. We need to start out with a popular candidate that most Dem voters already want to vote for. Not pick someone most dont want and then try to breathe literally tens of millions of people into holding their noses.

You just have a bad plan, and I feel like maybe if you just calm down, you could realize that what matters is beating republicans, so we should run candidates Dem voters want.

this post was submitted on 14 Jun 2024
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