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100% true. "Both sides" arguments exist SOLELY to deflect from awful things done by Republicans, or detract from positive things done by Democrats.
Not once have I seen it deployed for any other purpose.
Edit for the pedants: I should probably have not led with "100% true" before the sentence where I clearly stated my position. Although I think the delta between what I wrote after that and what is in OP is a difference without a distinction, if some of you want to feel like you really got me, you go right ahead.
You're 100% assuming motives. "Deployed", lol.
This is like saying that because we know smoking causes lung cancer, that the ONLY reason anyone smokes is because they're trying to get lung cancer.
Review Hanlon's Razor, and stop thinking there's sinister conspiracies everywhere, it's bad for your mental health.
Intent doesn't matter. I've never seen it used differently. You are welcome to disagree.
Does it actually matter at all what the intent is if the result is Trump winning and full on reducing the United States to a fascist ethnostate?
Yes. Demonizing people not because of who they are, but based on your prejudiced assumptions, is in fact bad, it turns out.
Are you trying to get people not to take you seriously? Because insane over-the-top exaggeration like this is a very strong strategy toward that end, if so.
If anything I'm under exaggerating. I'm unconcerned with bOtH sIdEs
How about.
Both sides are bad. Republicans are worse.
My daily interactions on social media over the past couple of decades?
^sea lion alert
Without a fuckin' doubt.
Just chucking fallacies at the wall and seeing what sticks, eh?
Right.
well now that syntax is confusing since you could be agreeing with me or arguing against me.
as an optimist, i'd prefer the former, but it would probably be bad faith on my part to assert that to be the case without confirming it with you.
I broke the bot.
jsyk, dehumanization is one of eco's steps toward fascism
Keep victimizing yourself.
your accusation is bad faith.
As they say: ~~garbage~~ bad faith in, ~~garbage~~ bad faith out.
another bad faith accusation
You can look at the sea of political discussion on social media and see for yourself.
I very clearly related my own experience. You don't need to agree with me, and I don't demand that you do.
If you don't agree. (and I'm guessing you don't) I doubt very much that any singular example I link is going to change your mind, and I don't care enough about changing it to link a bunch of them for you. I frankly don't know how it's possible to engage in these sorts of discussions online and not observe this exact phenomenon, though.
my guess is that no one has ever said "both sides are bad. i hope by spreading this message, voter turnout is supressed." if such a thing has happened, it's not on me to provide evidence to support your claim. i simply disbelieve your claim, and will not believe it unless i have evidence to the contrary.
I'm OK with that. Also, those weren't my words. Good day to you.
you didn't actually make a specific claim about what was said. i would take any evidence that supports your claim.
This is what you're guilty of invincible ignorance fallacy, or better yet, the argument by pigheadedness.
no evidence has been given
https://lemmy.ca/comment/9744349
this doesn't support the claim
Cool, let me play "guess what this probably disingenuous person would consider evidence". I'm sure that would be productive and yield fruitful results.
your accusation of disingenuousness is bad faith.
Do you have evidence for that claim?