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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 21 points 7 months ago

Biden won 2020 in spite of being Joe Biden, it's why it took almost 40 years for him to win his first presidential primary, people just don't ot want him as president.

Now that we've had him for four years, and he was worse than we expected...

I really don't think he can pull out another razor thin win like in 2020.

We're risking trump so we can have a Dem president that's more conservative than Dem voters want.

There's no logic behind it, except the donor class would rather have trump than a progressive. And just like AIPAC, they decided it's easiest to just buy both parties in the primary.

This is the third election and a row, it's not going to be different in 2028. If voters only requirement is "blue" then nothing is stopping either party from getting more and more conservative every election

[-] ccunning@lemmy.world 25 points 7 months ago

Now that we've had him for four years, and he was worse than we expected...

He far exceeded my expectations.

[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

In which ways? motions to everything being crap

[-] ccunning@lemmy.world 24 points 7 months ago
  • Massive infrastructure bill
  • Student loan forgiveness
  • Marijuana rescheduling

There’s plenty more, but my expectation was for him to not be Trump which he has thoroughly succeeded at. The rest is icing.

The biggest things he’s disappointed on, Trump disappoints on too…:

  • Palestine
  • Being too fucking old

…so it’s easy to see how that on balance he has exceeded expectations…

[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

That bar was extremely low huh?

[-] ccunning@lemmy.world 14 points 7 months ago

Yes. Being better than Trump is a low bar.

Are you confused about what’s happening here?

[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

It would be nice if we actually had policies we could champion instead of just "not Trump".

[-] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 12 points 7 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

That should be the bare minimum. Crumbs.

[-] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 13 points 7 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

That's it? That's all he's supposed to do while millions are still struggling?

Single mom: "I'm working three jobs and my kids are still hungry. We're about to be homeless."

"Hey now, Paris climate agreement! Be grateful!"

[-] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

You're right, everything is really great right now in America. Nothing else to see here folks. Everybody's swimming in gold.

Ignore the nearly 60% of people living paycheck to paycheck.

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[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Marijuana rescheduling

Is weed now legal nationwide? Everyone in jail for marijuana convictions now released? Records all expunged?

infrastructure spending

Bridges are literally crumbling. Where's the high speed rail?

student loan forgiveness

$1,600,000,000,000 total student loan debt, 45,000,000 Americans. He's wiped $150 billion. That's around 9% of the total and most of that has already been added back from the interest. "We did it Joe!"

clean drinking water

Flint would like a word.

lowered costs of generic drugs

For seniors, and for insulin.

expanded Medicaid

expand Medicaid coverage to adults with incomes up to 138 percent of the poverty level (about $20,780 annually for an individual or $35,630 for a family of three.) - How are they even surviving on that much? MURICA is doing great sweetie!

increased domestic manufacturing

What's the output not including the tax subsidized spending? Small businesses are being decimated.

increased nationwide gas mileage requirements

While increasing oil production he said he wouldn't do. There's a reason Sunrise Movement won't endorse him.

improved healthcare access for veterans.

Thanks Bernie Sanders!

[-] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

See, you have nothing to worry about with Biden in November then. He's doing such a great job, why isn't he 50 points ahead? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Dems are walking us towards the cliff. We're sounding the alarm and they keep marching onward.

[-] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

What subject do you want to discuss?

[-] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

I want my POTUS & Co. to fight for the following, as a start...

Universal healthcare, guaranteed housing, childcare for all, college for all, massive public transit projects in all the major cities, raise the federal wage to a livable wage, ban corporations from buying up housing, 75% minimum tax on rich.

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[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

There are always policies they run on. It's a matter of believing or seeing them follow through with them.

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[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago

Honestly, no, it's not. We should have had those things decades ago.

[-] Blackbeard@lemmy.world 10 points 7 months ago* (last edited 1 month ago)
[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 3 points 7 months ago

If you're happy with being hungry for hours before being given anything to eat, then good for you I guess? We can do better. Being kept hungry and given crumbs isn't healthy, it's positively abusive.

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[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

I'm not going to praise someone for doing something that should have and could have been done decades ago, no.

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[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 2 points 7 months ago

We should not do good things purely for the praise of others, we should do good things because they are the right thing to do.

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[-] FaceDeer@fedia.io 2 points 7 months ago

So once the perfect moment has passed, might as well never try to catch up.

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[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 8 points 7 months ago

This is like blaming Obama for his terrible response to Katrina.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

I've seen the need to point this out: Dems have had all 3 (of house, senate, presidency) for 4 years out of the last 24 years. If you include Bill Clinton that goes to 6 years of the last 32 years. Want to add Bush senior? Then it’s 6 years of the last 36 years. Want to add Reagan? Then it’s 6 years of the last 44 years. That's right, 6 years out of the last 44 years that Dems had control. And for filibuster proof majority they had 4 months of the last 44 years. Not years, 4 MONTHS of the last 44 fucking years.

And you want to ask why things haven't happened?

If you want progress, give Dems consistent and overwhelming victories.

[-] criitz@reddthat.com 8 points 7 months ago

The bar was Trump

[-] dojan@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

It’s silly to downvote you for wanting the leaders and representatives of a country and its people to be held to a certain standard.

[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

I mean, politicians work for us. We're their boss. They should be working their asses off for the people.

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[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago

Everyone has different standards and expectations.

Hell, look at how many people say that about trump.

[-] btaf45@lemmy.world 3 points 7 months ago

Now that we’ve had him for four years, and he was worse than we expected

Biden's much better than I expected, after being disappointed in Obama and his poor negotiating skills.

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