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[-] bappity@lemmy.world 133 points 1 year ago

ANTI UPGRADE?? WHAT THE FUCK

[-] aard@kyu.de 191 points 1 year ago

Intel is well known for requiring a new board for each new CPU generation, even if it is the same socket. AMD on the other hand is known to push stuff to its physical limits before they break compatibility.

[-] neo@lemy.lol 27 points 1 year ago

But why? Did Intel make a deal with the board manufacturers? Is this tradition from the days when they build boards themselves?

I thought they just didn't care and wanted as little restrictions for their chip design as possible, but if this actually works without drawbacks, that theory is out the window.

[-] A_Very_Big_Fan@lemmy.world 46 points 1 year ago

Just another instance of common anti-consumer behavior from multi billion dollar companies who have no respect for the customers that line their pockets.

[-] radau@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 year ago

They used to dominate the consumer market prior to Ryzen so might have something to do with it but I got no evidence lol

[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 year ago

Intel also sells the chipset and the license to the chipset software; the more boards get sold, the more money they make (as well as their motherboard partners, who also get to sell more, which encourages more manufacturers to make Intel boards and not AMD)

[-] tabular@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There are many motherboard manufactors but only 2 CPU manufacturers (for PC desktop). Board makers don't "makes deals" so much as have the terms dictated to them. Even graphics card manufacturers made them their bitch back when multi-GPU was a thing - it was them who had to sell their Crossfire/SLL technology on their motherboards.

[-] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 2 points 1 year ago

guess who sells the chipsets to the motherboard manufacturers

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

They've been pulling this shit since the early days. Similar tricks were employed in the 486 days to swap out chips, and again in the Celeron days. I think they switched to the slot style intentionally to keep selling chips to a point lol

[-] bappity@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] grue@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

IIRC, the slot CPU thing was because they wanted to get the cache closer to the processor, but hadn't integrated it on-die yet. AMD did the same thing with the original Athlon.

On a related note, Intel's anticompetitive and anti- consumer tactics are why I've been buying AMD since the K6-2.

[-] Evilcoleslaw@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They had integrated the L2 on-die before that already with the Pentium Pro on Socket 8. IIRC the problem was the yields were exceptionally low on those Pentium Pros and it was specifically the cache failing. So every chip that had bad cache they had to discard or bin it as a lower spec part. The slot and SECC form factor allowed them to use separate silicon on a larger node by having the cache still be on-package (the SECC board) instead of on-die.

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

AMD followed suit for the memory bandwidth part from the K62 architecture. Intel had no reason to do so.

[-] turmacar@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's been at least since the "big iron" days.

Technician comes out to upgrade your mainframe and it consists of installing a jumper to enable the extra features. For only a few million dollars.

[-] Bezier@suppo.fi 28 points 1 year ago

But otherwise upgrade parts would be too affordable!

[-] bappity@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago
[-] MonkderDritte@feddit.de 5 points 1 year ago

No, "user security".

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