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submitted 10 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

President Joe Biden promised Black voters Wednesday that he would appoint progressives to the US Supreme Court if elected to a second term, suggesting he expects vacancies on the high court over the next four years.

“The next president, they’re going to be able to appoint a couple justices, and I’ll be damned — if in fact we’re able to change some of the justices when they retire and put in really progressive judges like we’ve always had, tell me that won’t change your life,” he said during a campaign rally in Philadelphia.

It was as explicit a warning as Biden could offer about the stakes of the upcoming election, and a clear reminder that some of the nine justices have entered their seventies.

Clarence Thomas is 75 and Samuel Alito is 74; both are conservative and appointed by Republican presidents. Sonia Sotomayor, a liberal who was nominated by President Barack Obama, turns 70 next month.

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[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 218 points 10 months ago

Biden's going to need everyone's help. Turn the Senate and the House super Blue. Even if you hate Biden because of Israeli support, vote for your Rep and Senator that can deal with this corruption. Add to the bench until the traitors Thomas and Alito become irrelevant. Revise the number of Senate and House seats.

[-] PseudorandomNoise@lemmy.world 79 points 10 months ago

Even if you hate Biden because of Israeli support

i.e. don't be a single-issue voter.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 10 points 10 months ago

I'm a single issue voter and my single issue is proportional representation - I'll be voting for Biden but if a major party candidate did genuinely advocate for voting reform they'd probably have me.

[-] Hugin@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago

I hate most of the Democratic party. I fear the Republican party. So yeah I'll be holding my nose and voting D.

[-] tacosplease@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

That would be a decent protest. Have all the frustrated D voters wear a clothespin on their nose when they go to vote for the lesser evil.

Could actually get more people off the couch. Frustrated progressive voters would want to increase the ratio of "nose plug voters" to more effectively send their message to Biden while also helping kick out the Republicans.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I really like this idea! If enough people did it the media would absolutely pick up on it and amplify it.

Of course that does put people in red states in danger as they're announcing to everyone who can see them who they're voting for. :(

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago

Make it happen Samurai

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago

I'll be counting on you as a Canadian :)

It's easy to fall into a defeatist attitude with how fucked up everything is, but change starts with a belief that things can be changed.

[-] Mossheart@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 months ago

Things can always be changed.

On the other hand, challenging worse hasn't gone well lately..

Spoken as a defeated Canadian who watched any hope of home ownership evaporate in the last 4 years.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago
[-] sgtgig@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago

I just want the GOP to get absolutely pummeled for once so we can move the overton window back in the right direction. No I don't like the dems. Yes I will vote for them every time as they represent the closest to what I want.

[-] retrospectology@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Not going to happen while they're still taking AIPAC money, that shit is toxic to actual turn-out for Dems at this point.

[-] Facebones@reddthat.com 2 points 10 months ago

Voting dem still moves the overton window right. "Vote blue no matter who" rewards them time after time for sprinting right chasing voters that were never going to vote for him while becoming too right even for centrists

[-] venusaur@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Hijacking this comment thread to promote Ranked Choice Voting.

[-] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

And theres only one party that has outlawed RCV in certain areas. We aren't getting RCV without 2 things:

-Primary moderates and elect progressive Democrats at every level we can -A Democratic supermajority in Congress

[-] venusaur@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Not sure what you mean by outlaw, but there are definitely democratic politicians who have shot down RCV on their ballots.

[-] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

S Dakota, Idaho, Montana, Tennessee, and Florida have all banned RCV. Bunch of other GOP controlled statehouses have proposed bills to do the same.

I'm sure there are individual legislators in the Democratic party that have shot down RCV but its opposition is nowhere near that of the GOP.

[-] venusaur@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Got it. Yeah nobody in power wants RCV. Don’t be fooled by their inaction.

[-] kmartburrito@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

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ARISE! ARISE CHICKEN!

[-] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Shh... He is legend...

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

RCV, Approval, and STAR my beloved

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

STAR, score, or approval! Not sure why people are obsessed with ranked, they must love curing ballots and being prevented from tallying districts individually?

100% would rather have ranked over FPTP, just to be clear. FPTP is toxic garbage.

[-] Feathercrown@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Not sure why people are obsessed with ranked, they must love curing ballots and being prevented from tallying districts individually?

No need to be hostile to them. RCV is pedalled very hard, so naturally people who've heard about alternative voting systems will know it first.

[-] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 5 points 10 months ago

Is there good videos on STAR or score like there is ranked or approval? I first heard about alternative voting systems from that one stick figure YouTube guy. Not sure if he's made any other election based videos I've missed or if other people have made equally good ones about other voting systems.

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

I don't know if they'll be as entertaining as a pro YouTuber but there is a webpage with some explainer videos https://www.starvoting.org/videos

[-] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 2 points 10 months ago
[-] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Because those still encourage strategic voting. With RCV, you can vote your conscious and be certain that it won't backfire and help your enemies.

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

I'd rather a voting system maximize voter satisfaction than minimize strategic voting. And I'd rather have people exhaust their ballots intentionally than accidentally.

What are STAR voters going to do, give everyone either all or no points? Their votes might not be counted in the final round, that's their choice.

[-] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Being forced to vote strategically is why so many voters are dissatisfied.

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

I mean, you can look at the mathematical simulations of the models or you can argue over the semantics. STAR discourages voting strategically somewhat by having two stages. If that is not enough, even voting purely strategically it has higher voter satisfaction than ranked.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 2 points 10 months ago

I remain highly skeptical if the idea that many people would engage in strategic voting unless it's extremely obvious how to do it.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

Boo RCV - we should just go parliamentary and stop direct election of the executive branch!

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

We'd need a constitutional convention. Or the largest amendment we've ever had. RCV can be done simply by the states.

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

Yea, if RCV is all we can get I'm not going to let the perfect be the enemy of the good... and hopefully with RCV we could get better leadership... but it'd be wonderful if we could get off direct executive elections.

[-] logi@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Perhaps with RCV (or whatever) you can elect leadership that will allow that.

[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social 2 points 10 months ago

Because that's been going so great for the UK...

[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

The UK has shitty FPTP like we have here but their government never deadlocks. The US government can fail in a very special way where the president can be reduced to only being able to veto legislation while trying not to be impeached and it's fucking dumb.

We need a government that's both representative and functional and there's a reason why modern nations have looked at directly elected executives and parliamentary system and vastly preferred the latter.

[-] venusaur@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

Biden should be scared of losing his job or he has no incentive to do what the people want.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 10 points 10 months ago

People need to remember that Biden merely supports Israel, Trump would have nuked Palestine off the face of the Earth by now.

[-] venusaur@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

You have a list of senators and house reps that will keep Biden and potentially Trump in check?

[-] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 7 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_members_of_the_Congressional_Progressive_Caucus

In terms of which progressive candidates are running to beat incumbents that varies from state to state.

[-] venusaur@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Any progressive incumbents we should definitely not vote for?

[-] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Fetterman kinda sucks now lol. But I don't know anything about if he's up for reelection or if someone worse is running, so I shouldn't comment 😅

[-] doc@kbin.social 7 points 10 months ago

Sure you do. Think back to your school classes. Senators are elected for 6-year terms. Fetterman is basically brand new so that means his election was the last cycle, or 2022. 2022 + 6 years equals 2028 reelection.

[-] WanderingVentra@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Makes sense! It's like that knowledge subconsciously entered my brain right after I typed it, because the realization that he probably isn't running made me add that caveat lol.

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