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Conservatives, including judges, are not known for their intelligence.
Yet they seem to dominate when sparring with the left.
If you think spewing mostly fabricated, irrelevant nonsense is dominating, then yes. They absolutely dominate.
Edit: ooof, that post history
I think there is more going on then that. Wouldn't you?
If I go ask ten people what they think about any wedge issue, majority of them will give right wing talking points even if they don't lean right.
They're winning and being ignorant to it doesn't help any. I still see assholes on my overpass on weekends rotating topics like carbon taxes, vaccines, bill gates, WHO and so on. The supporting honks they get is soul crushing.
Can you explain what spewing mostly fabricated, irrelevant nonsense has to do with being dominate socially or politically? Cause I would argue it's more of an obstacle to dominating in these areas.
Yes, you are correct — their rhetoric is more further-reaching, no doubt. They control the narratives, absolutely. But this isn't because they're being rhetoricians, it's because:
And where is the morality in letting a political party without morals gain power. When was the last time that Clark Kent was a relevant archetype. The antihero is king now. But also is it real morals when there isn't really any rules beyond social norms. All of them are corrupt regardless. I wouldn't call some of the Democrats moral actors. They just attempt to act more as adults.
They have the vast majority of the money and with it a greater loudspeaker.
But the left also has money but why has the right used it to secure so many public areas. Like all their civil actions had so much funding. I remember individuals donating millions to the clownvoy. Charlie Kirk is successful becoming a millionaire as a college drop out who opened a political shit throwing business and introducing youth on campuses around the country to people like Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson. What was the left doing?
Selling fear and rage porn and lies and half-truths will always be easier than conveying the complexity and nuance of truth and reality.
Sure, but again who gives two shits about truths and reality. We all went nuts for Plato's allegory of the cave for a few months a while ago for a reason. Truths don't matter, but truth does. The Republicans win because they understand this. And as I get older I think this idea that the left hobbles themselves because they're focused on being moral and truth seekers is more of an excuse for not being as effective as they should be.
You hang out with stupid people. You have confused your friends with a random sample of the population.
Don't be rude. Acting as if you're more enlightened can be a defense mechanism. People aren't stupid because they lean right on issues. Most people on the right are business owners and have figured enough out in life to become fairly successful.
Reread what you're implying vs who I said I would ask and think about who is confused about a random sample. It seems you are under the impression I'm asking people I hang out with when that was never said.
Arguing with a conservative is like playing chess with a pigeon. The problem is that onlookers think the pigeon won after it shits all over the board.
The problem also is it's up to the onlookers to decide who "won".
I disagree. Its so much bigger than arguing with randoms online. Its about average opinion of average people.
I hope you aren't talking about people using gish gallop.
That's all they've got.