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[-] return2ozma@lemmy.world 21 points 5 months ago

That's not how voting works but whatever you need to say to feel better.

[-] Grebes@sh.itjust.works 29 points 5 months ago

Ideological purity is great from the privileged position you must be in. The real results of Stein voters in the last election is millions losing rights to bodily autonomy, children being forcibly separated from families, a Christian nationalism Supreme Court, and a president playing favorites during the worst pandemic in living memory. There may be some compromises needed to fix a broken system but third parties are not likely to do anything except split the vote and cause harm

[-] freshcow@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Give me a fucking break if you think Hillary Clinton losing is because of Jill Stein

[-] Grebes@sh.itjust.works 15 points 5 months ago

Stein and Johnson had between 2 (FL) and 20 (MI) times the number of votes making up the margin between Trump and Clinton in FL, WI, MI, and PA. That would have made a difference.

Either way, no third party is viable under the current system and pretending otherwise is the luxury of people who won’t be targeted if the Trump administration is allowed back into power.

[-] III@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

It is the luxury of the profoundly dense as well. Plenty of non-cis white males vote third party.

[-] njordomir@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

If enough people vote third party, it's supposed to pull the big two towards them to recapture those voters. If the Dems aren't courting these voters, it's their fault and an indication that they can't be trusted to represent us. Instead, they ignored us completely and will continue down the same bullshit paths that brought us here. If we don't vote third party, nothing will change because the Dems view us as suckers who will fall in line. That's why they shamelessly did Bernie dirty. Biden and the Dems have been flopping around their hardon for Israel while it's obviously splitting their base. It's almost like they want to lose.

Having said all that, I may vote for Biden this time anyway because I told myself long ago that I would vote for the first prez who rescheduled or legalized cannabis.

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