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Victim reports his father missing. Police instead interrogated him for 17 hours, said they killed his dog, and withheld his meds from the victim. Victim tried to commit suicide in the room. (lemmy.world)

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At one point during the interrogation, the investigators even threatened to have his pet Labrador Retriever, Margosha, euthanized as a stray, and brought the dog into the room so he could say goodbye. “OK? Your dog’s now gone, forget about it,” said an investigator.

Finally, after curling up with the dog on the floor, Perez broke down and confessed. He said he had stabbed his father multiple times with a pair of scissors during an altercation in which his father hit Perez over the head with a beer bottle.

Perez’s father wasn’t dead — or even missing. Thomas Sr. was at Los Angeles International Airport waiting for a flight to see his daughter in Northern California. But police didn’t immediately tell Perez.

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[-] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 58 points 5 months ago

When shit like this happens, we need an armed mob outside the department the next day.

[-] refalo@programming.dev 7 points 5 months ago

armed mob

dare I ask why they should be armed? what good do you think will come from that?

[-] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 27 points 5 months ago

In the US cops routinely beat up unarmed peaceful protestors while being pretty respectful to armed but still ostensibly peaceful protestors.

[-] sukhmel@programming.dev 1 points 5 months ago

Tis but a coincidence

[-] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 27 points 5 months ago

For legitimate self defence

[-] Draegur@lemm.ee 23 points 5 months ago

Those fucking bastard pigs are already an armed mob and they're more armed than we'd ever be. There's no winning against them in any "fair" fight.

[-] archchan@lemmy.ml 22 points 5 months ago

Peace would be ideal. But the reality is that with the manageable sized protesters that show up, they would probably order the crowd to disperse and when they don't, you're likely to be beaten, tear gased, and arrested by some militant armed thugs in riot gear despite being peaceful. It might make rounds in the news for a couple of days then everyone would forget about it before long and nothing will change as usual. All the while the ones who sit above the law (you know, the class that cops protect) are laughing away while sipping fancy wine in their gilded towers with private security, looking down at the entertaining misfortune of the poor batteries that power their money printing machine.

[-] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 5 months ago

It is insurance, in case the cops respond with force.

[-] refalo@programming.dev 2 points 5 months ago

and you think you'll just get away with shooting a cop?? even if they were guilty you'd be gunned down by their buddies in your sleep.

[-] ArmokGoB@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 5 months ago

If the protesters outnumber the cops and are all armed, the cops would likely fall back or be outgunned, even if the protesters take losses.

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